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Supreme Court Rules Nearly Half of Oklahoma is Indian Reservation
NYT ^ | July 9, 2020 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 07/09/2020 8:05:23 AM PDT by Stravinsky

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To: Presbyterian Reporter
If I understand this case correctly, an Indian committed a crime and was tried by the Oklahoma State Courts.

SCOTUS now says that is a no-no. The Indian must be tried by Indian Courts.

A case like this happened in Canada a few years back.

A First Nations teen killed a white woman and FN demanded the young man be handed over to them for to punish as they saw fit.

The Canadian government conceded.

21 posted on 07/09/2020 8:23:15 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I have an old map...circa 1900. I think it shows the reservation lands...I’ll take a peak.


22 posted on 07/09/2020 8:23:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Boogieman
As for “protecting a pedophile”, he’s still liable to be prosecuted, but the Supremes ruled he should have been prosecuted in federal or tribal court, not state court. The proper authorities should just re-arrest him the moment the state releases him.

You know how GEOTUS feels about sex crimes against children?

Out of the frying pan into the industrial blast furnace for the plaintiff, despite the ruling. (Remember, he's already been convicted "beyond a reasonable doubt" -- despite the jurisdictional tangle, which does not automatically make the evidence invalid...)

23 posted on 07/09/2020 8:24:04 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
If that is the SCOTUS reasoning, then if a Foreigner commits are crime in the USA, do we have to send the Foreigner back to their country to be tried?

Do we have a treaty with that country saying that?

24 posted on 07/09/2020 8:24:52 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Boogieman

Happens all the time here in New Mexico - major crimes committed on reservations or pueblo lands are investigated by the FBI and prosecuted by the US attorney. One of the most horrific crimes that took place on the Navajo Reservation in 2016 was a member who kidnapped, raped and murdered an 11-year old girl near Shiprock. He was caught and in a plea deal received a life sentence instead of execution.


25 posted on 07/09/2020 8:25:25 AM PDT by CedarDave (Public schools are nothing more than government-run radical propaganda indoctrination centers.)
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To: bantam

Yep, getting real.


26 posted on 07/09/2020 8:26:03 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Stravinsky
It was tried in the wrong court. Go back to go....

But then....what about double jeopardy.

27 posted on 07/09/2020 8:27:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Stravinsky

this is just a very small step away from the court deciding that the land must be “returned to its rightful owners” (which the court will characterize as the Indian tribes). if the laws of your state don’t apply (or can’t be enforced) in your town, then there’s no remaining sovereignty in a practical sense

and your land ownership/title is recognized, upheld, and supposedly defended by your state and its sovereignty, power to enforce its laws

for instance, there’s a state law against trespassers walking across your lawn. there’s a state law against squatters moving into your house without your permission. these are state laws. now that the state of Oaklahoma can’t enfoce its laws in all of these cities, towns, communities, and regions, ... where does this leave your property rights?

we will find out soon, at least by the time of the next court decision


28 posted on 07/09/2020 8:28:01 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, theyÂ’re excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: bantam

Starting to get scary, isn’t it??


It started to get scary in 1978 ... the rest has been just terrifying


29 posted on 07/09/2020 8:28:32 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Starboard

“With each passing day the country becomes more and more unglued. There’s not much left holding us together as a country anymore.”

Sad, but true.


30 posted on 07/09/2020 8:30:14 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

So what becomes of the oil royalties that are coming from the half that was ruled a Indian reservation?


31 posted on 07/09/2020 8:30:57 AM PDT by Saltmeat (69)
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To: nwrep

Nope, my two brothers and their families live there. It is deep crimson just now with a feathered head dress.


32 posted on 07/09/2020 8:30:59 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: yesthatjallen

Indian or Federal Court...


33 posted on 07/09/2020 8:32:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: LibWhacker

Separate but Equal?..........It worked so well, before................


34 posted on 07/09/2020 8:32:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: Starboard

Cherokee people
Cherokee pride
Too young to live
Too young to die

Now your singing that song.....


35 posted on 07/09/2020 8:35:42 AM PDT by 9422WMR (Get rid of those statues of democrat soldiers who fought for slavery in the civil war!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

It’s called “Extradition Treaties”. There are many with different countries.


36 posted on 07/09/2020 8:36:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

“...if a Foreigner commits are crime in the USA, do we have to send the Foreigner back to their country to be tried?”

Good question.

If they’re Muslim; maybe SCOTUS will next require a Sharia Court be created for those cases.

Would you bet against that?


37 posted on 07/09/2020 8:36:14 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Starboard

According to this article cases can still be tried in federal courts, but the bad part is hundreds of local cases may have to be retried in federal courts.

I also get the feeling from the article that Congress may have the authority to return jurisdiction back to the state.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2020-07-09/justices-rule-swath-of-oklahoma-remains-tribal-reservation


38 posted on 07/09/2020 8:36:17 AM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: Stravinsky

Does that mean the Cherokee get to start buying and selling slaves again?


39 posted on 07/09/2020 8:37:20 AM PDT by seowulf
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To: Starboard
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

— John Adams
There’s a reason why Adams said that.
40 posted on 07/09/2020 8:38:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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