How can we evict teachers unions from our towns?

[cradle of freedom]

Does every town and city in our country have a teachers union? What if all of the red voting towns and cities kicked out the teachers unions out of their schools? We would not be empowering them with our tax money and our schools would not be places of leftist indoctrination.

[MayflowerMadam]

I’m not sure, but think maybe the teachers and their ridiculous commie unions may have weakened over the last six months. It seems that a favorable view of home schooling by parents has taken off as an unintended consequence of the WuFlu scamdemic. If you lose heads in a classroom, the district loses money. Less money, fewer teachers. Sometimes things just work themselves out.

[cradle of freedom]

If Kennedy did it with an Executive Order take it to the Supreme Court.

[rrrod]

99% give the others a bad name.

[cradle of freedom]

Do you know of any small towns that do no have teachers unions?

[OldCountryBoy]

Study what was done in Wisconsin, under previous governor, Scott Walker. It is holding up still, under the current democrat governor. When give the choice of paying dues or not, the great majority of teachers don’t pay dues. The Wisconsin teacher union organization had even created their own insurance company to fleece Wisconsinites. That company is now flailing because the union can’t force districts to contract with them, and the contracts must be competitively bid.

[Twotone]

They have the right to unionize. The real problem is negotiating the contract. Too often the union & the blue state representatives take care of each other, resulting in a contract that screws the taxpayer. Taxpayers need to demand some kind of representation during negotiations to prevent lots of special benefits to these groups.

[GenXteacher]

To answer the first question- no. My state doesn’t allow teachers or other government workers to have collective bargaining. If you want left-wingers out of teaching you will have to have some sort of litmus test on hiring, such as “Do you believe the Second Amendment recognizes an individual right to bear arms?”.

[nevermorelenore]

ABOLISH THE DEPARTMENT OF INDOCTRINATION

[cloudmountain]

Teachers are more like Teamsters.

They are but they shouldn't be. They only work during a school "year." My teacher friends used to say, "Yeah, but we work harder because teaching is harder." BALONEY!!

Teachers must take units after they get their degree and those classes are supposed to "enrich" them. Well, my friends took "fun classes" and got "enrichment" by writing off trips to Europe.

I took the units I had to towards a Master's degree. It was worth it. I worked at a community college and made 50% more than they did, got more time off and worked fewer hours a week. They stayed in the public schools and griped their entire career.
My retirement is four times higher as well.
They were just too darn lazy to make the effort. Now, they are financially worse off than I am.
Too bad. They're retired and are STUCK. Not MY fault.

[FormerFRLurker]

It's ABSURD for teachers to be in a union. Unions belong to those who work with hands. Teachers are professionals like lawyers, bankers, corporate executive.

Movie stars are way better paid than teachers and they have their own union, the Screen Actors Guild.

[cloudmountain]

Movie stars are way better paid than teachers and they have their own union, the Screen Actors Guild.

There IS a difference.

From Google:
A Guild is a collective bargaining organization for independent contractors.
A Union is a collective bargaining organization for employees.

[FormerFRLurker]

That’s interesting. I did not know that before. As an independent contractor who has NO representation from any kind of guild I’m still shaking my head that a bunch of overpaid actors somehow need collective bargaining at all.

[skimbell]

I was the NEA building rep (like a shop steward with the UAW) for better than twenty years while I was a teaching. I didn't particularly care for the union but I kept that position so that I had a better view of what was going on.

Contrary to your statement, in my experience most classroom teachers have only a minimal understanding of what is happening with the Union and even less concern with what the Union is attempting to do.

The Union of course understands this and is quite good at influencing the rank and file to move in the direction that they are pointed.

Bottom line is the members are easily satisfied and accepting of the bones the Union throws their way and there isn't much concern in getting rid of the Union, but on the flip side, if the membership felt that they were getting a better deal from another approach, I don't think there would be much resistance to chitcanning the NEA yesterday.

[Retvet]

I’d say tar and feather them but feathers are hard to get.

[eastexsteve]

Contrary to your statement, in my experience most classroom teachers have only a minimal understanding of what is happening with the Union and even less concern with what the Union is attempting to do.

My state is a "right to work" state, so unions are limited in what they can do. But, it's the teacher mills that crank out the left-wing idiots.

[rolling_stone]

too tough to do go to vouchers and support privste schools where teachers have to perform to keep their jobs And administrators can control content

[cloudmountain]

That’s interesting. I did not know that before. As an independent contractor who has NO representation from any kind of guild I’m still shaking my head that a bunch of overpaid actors somehow need collective bargaining at all.

I didn't know it either.

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Google
During the 11th century, merchant guilds were formed in many towns. They arose out of the need to protect commerce and industry in towns, which were outside the scope of the feudal system and thus had no laws or customs governing economic affairs.

So guilds are old institutions.

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Google
UNIONS, begun by the English:
By the 1810s, the first labour organizations to bring together workers of divergent occupations were formed. Possibly the first such union was the General Union of Trades, also known as the Philanthropic Society, founded in 1818 in Manchester.

Now we BOTH know a little more than we did yesterday.

[max americana]

“It’s not the teachers unions alone. It’s the teachers themselves”

MOST. Not all.

[Team Cuda]

You stated that you suspected I might be wrong, considering what BOB (your caps usage) himself had to say about it….

You then posted a quote, that in the body of the quote says “said Harteau” When you look at the link, which you obviously didn’t do, you see this is a quote from Janee Harteau, former police chief of Minneapolis. And, by the way, this quote in no way shows that the police union is antifa. Please tell me how you think this is proof that the police union is antifa.

So, to summarize you make an unsupported statement (all Unions are antifa) and when challenged on it, posted a quote that you claimed was from one person, when a 5 second click on the link (that you posted) showed it was from another person, that didn’t support your position in the first place. Have I correctly summarized this?

I don’t believe I am wrong when I say that Police Unions are not antifa. Show me one statement from a Police Union stating that they support antifa.

Prove me wrong.

[EasySt]

You’re not wrong.
We’re making different points, and mine is not entirely fair.

Unions, and PTAs, and HOAs, and City Councils, and
governments from small to large attract power abusing low
life human haters often referred to as “Karens” and “Chads”.
They cannot be trusted not to abuse their power.
They often cannot be trusted not to abuse animals, either.

They also serve to protect their own like minded abusers.

The Police force there is afflicted by that sort of problem.

Scratch the skin of any of your Antifa types, and you will
find a human abusing power wielding “Karen” or “Chad”.

It all comes down to the same thing.

Our failure in being Eternally Vigilant in pulling all the
“Karens” and “Chads” back from the Brink of the Abyss before
they sent the infected back into the nursing homes, or stood
the police down so the cities could burn. Or had them kneel
for Terrorist photo ops. (For example.)

~Easy