Posted on 06/05/2020 4:10:52 PM PDT by Kaslin

Is this the end of the expert? If not, were on that trajectory with the medical communitys transparent shift regarding the lockdowns over the coronavirus outbreak. Businesses couldnt reopen because we needed to control the spread, flatten the curve, and ensure the hospitals were not overrun. Venturing out made you a selfish bastard. And then, a couple of weeks prior, though some of you were already poking holes through the narrative, there was a great reversal. Some were grounded in good news. New York City, the mecca of the US-based outbreak, saw deaths decline and hospitalizations stabilize. Hooray! Then, the CDC study showed that the mortality rate was around .04 percent, which makes this virus less deadly than the flu. Then, the CDC said that this virus doesnt spread as easily on surfacesthis was one of the main reasons for the stay-at-home order. Asymptomatic people touching stuff and passing on the pathogen. The curve was flattened. States not heavily impacted were set to reopen and the liberal media went haywire. Florida was supposed to be awash with bodies. That was over eight weeks agoand we still have no mountains of dead bodies. Some of us, myself included, overreacted. Initially, I think most were fine with the quarantine over the health care system overload and stopping the spread reasons, but some Democrats, in typical fashion, decided to move the goalposts to stay inside until we have a vaccine.
No. That was never possible. We would all be out of work. The overreach seen in some states is horrific but hardly a shock given the political leadership at the helm. Are we shocked New Jersey, deep-blue and insufferably liberal New Jersey, went off the rails in enforcing its lockdown measures? Measures that Gov. Phil Murphy admitted to drawing up without giving a thought to constitutional rightsno. It is time to reopen. And now, the liberal media and the health experts agree, but only because riots have sparked across the country that could be weaponized to make the Trump administration look bad.
George Floyd died under police custody in Minneapolis on May 25. Its all on video. Its heinous. Its an atrocity. Floyd died when arresting officer Derek Chauvin kept his knee on the back of his neck. He kept it there for nearly ten minutes. Floyd can be heard crying out that he was having trouble breathing. He was killed. Period. Chauvin was fired and charged with second-degree murder. The three other officers involved were also fired and charged with aiding and abetting murder.
Protests were held across the country, and many have devolved into full-blown riots. There should be outrage. In fact, the country was united in anger, but that breaks down when looting, vandalism, and mayhem become rampant, and that has happened in our cities. Oh right, the lockdowns, yestheyre over. Given how the medical community now says that racism is just as much a pandemic as COVID, the expert class has been exposed as true pod people. Weve gone from stay home and be a hero and help medical staff to get out there and protest or youre supporting white supremacy. Thats quite the 180-degree turn. Academia is infested with liberal bias, but as the woke legions graduate and continue to spread their cancer into other institutions, this is what you get. Pseudo-scientific nonsense and decisions based on bashing Trump.
Its outright madness. The chair of the NYC health committee actually said if there is a spike in COVID cases in the Big Apple, blame racism, not the rioters. If anything, it shows that being woke and politically correct probably exacerbated the outbreak when it first arrived in the city, as Trump was bashing China at the time. Chinese New Year was in full swing, come on down to show Trump what forand get exposed to a virus that was out of control at the time.
Its gone off the rails. The real danger is down the line. How can we trust these clowns again when a real deadly pathogen bubbles upand it will. As long as there is life on Earth, the virus will stick around. Its scary, but Trump-derangement from the professional Left, which dominates these fields of study, will be to blame.
You have to admit, this lockdown narrative was a well-executed strategy. The liberal media keeps up the doom and gloom news, which tanks the markets. The political class seeing this chooses the better safe than sorry approach and enacts stay-at-home order, and then the pinch on businesses begins. The hope was to keep fear alive and let this eat into Trumps re-election chances. Those who deviate are shamed. Rinse and repeat until the data started to show this was an overreaction. And now, with a new issue that can be used to attack Trump, get on out and riot.
Liberal reporter Michael Tracey, who has gone after other lefties for their insanity over Trump-Russia collusion, has been on a tear. First, he rightfully slammed the left-wing activist-media complex for being coddled babies who are totally insane. Now, hes set his sights on the medical folks who now say put COVID on pause, as if this is a video game, and smash racism.
Tracey kicked a hornet's nest, and a whole lot of insanity came pouring out.
1,200 of the country's most renowned public health "experts" have signed a letter calling outdoor mass gatherings "vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of Black people." We are in the midst of a mass psychotic break https://t.co/Ka57iiu4PO Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
Money quote: "This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives." https://t.co/J771zB3riN Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) June 5, 2020
The letter was drafted by infectious disease "experts" at the University of Washington, which has been integral in studying the coronavirus in the US. They write that "pervasive racism" is now "the paramount public health problem," superseding the virus. WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!! Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
This is a professor of epidemiology at Johns Hopkins. What the absolute fuck. We have to be witnessing one of the craziest overnight shifts in mass psychology... ever. Like, in all of human history https://t.co/NnNiTNussK Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
Epidemiologists and public health "experts" have just nuked the credibility of their entire field. It's astonishing https://t.co/riAi6gxoOh Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
White male Michael Tracey doesn't understand (?) that systematic racism is indeed a greater threat to health and life p/c than #COVID19, but it is. It doesn't take a public health expert to know that racism kills BIPOC... you can see the discrepancies *in the pandemic* ffs https://t.co/KTODPsVXfL outside agitator (@tarynfivek) June 5, 2020
Take a look at this tweet from a Johns Hopkins epidemiology professor who wrote, We should always evaluate the risks and benefits of efforts to control the virus. In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus.
I mean, even Politico is highlighting the odd turnaround here [emphasis mine]:
The injustice thats evident to everyone right now needs to be addressed, Abraar Karan, a Brigham and Womens Hospital physician whos exhorted coronavirus experts to amplify the protests' anti-racist message, told me. "While I have voiced concerns that protests risk creating more outbreaks, the status quo wasnt going to stop #covid19 either," he wrote on Twitter this week.
Its a message echoed by media outlets and some of the most prominent public health experts in America, like former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Tom Frieden, who loudly warned against efforts to rush reopening but is now supportive of mass protests. Their claim: If we dont address racial inequality, itll be that much harder to fight Covid-19. Theres also evidence that the virus doesnt spread easily outdoors, especially if people wear masks.
The experts maintain that their messages are consistentthat they were always flexible on Americans going outside, that they want protesters to take precautions and that they're prioritizing public health by demanding an urgent fix to systemic racism.
But their messages are also confounding to many who spent the spring strictly isolated on the advice of health officials, only to hear that the need might not be so absolute after all. Its particularly nettlesome to conservative skeptics of the all-or-nothing approach to lockdown, who point out that many of those same public health expertsa group that tends to skew liberalwidely criticized activists who held largely outdoor protests against lockdowns in April and May, accusing demonstrators of posing a public health danger. Conservatives, who felt their own concerns about long-term economic damage or even mental health costs of lockdown were brushed aside just days or weeks ago, are increasingly asking whether these public health experts are letting their politics sway their health care recommendations.
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Conservatives also have seized on a Twitter thread by Drew Holden, a commentary writer and former GOP Hill staffer, comparing how politicians and pundits criticized earlier protests but have been silent on the new ones or even championed them.
I think whats lost on people is that there have been real sacrifices made during lockdown, Holden told me. People who couldnt bury loved ones. Small businesses destroyed. How can a health expert look those people in the eye and say it was worth it now?
[ ]
many say the protests are worth the risk of a possible Covid-19 surge, including hundreds of public health workers who signed an open letter this week that sought to distinguish the new anti-racist protests from the response to white protesters resisting stay-home orders.
Those protests against stay-at-home orders not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives, according to the letters nearly 1,300 signatories. Protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must be supported.
And this is how you turn a colossal event that possibly could have hurt Trump in 2020 and morph it into a massive in-kind contribution to his re-election effort. Why? Because liberals are stupid. Yes, their allies in the media did a swell job selling panic and trashing the market. And then thinking this reversal after everything thats been saidits just you cannot make it up. The liberal bias is explicitly clear and be prepared to defend every suggestion you make from here going out because the default position should be to look on these clowns with contempt and skepticism.
Sorry, small business owners protesting over these Democratic governors arbitrarily extending the lockdowns are not grounded in white supremacy. Also, do these experts thinks that black small business owners werent impacted by this quarantine? If anything, these people telling folks its ok to go outside and protest have done more to harm their communities than COVID ever could with the violent turn that has occurred. Minneapolis burned. The Big Apple descended into chaos. Cops are being targeted by mobs. Its mayhem out there, but its fine because orange man bad, right. The lockdowns are over. Ignore their advice from here going forward. Theyre finished
Between missing the fall of the Soviet Union, botching 9/11, fabricating Iraq WMD, botching the Arab Spring, lying about Iran's nukes, telling us ISIS was no big deal, peddling the Russian collusion hoax, and lying about coronavirus, have The Experts been right about anything? Sean Davis (@seanmdav) June 5, 2020
People have got to fight back against being locked down again. I saw that one state had gone out and shut down a whole lot of businesses that had simply reopened because they said that if the protests were okay, their businesses were ok. Guess not.
What does he mean -- "again?"
I didn't trust those f#%&ers in the first place ... and I have nothing but contempt for all those gullible Freepers out there who tossed their freedom in a trash can only to have it set on fire by an ANTIFA looter who doesn't buy the bullsh!t that so many people here accepted without so much as a whimper.
It will soon be time for Fauci and Birx to retire to spend more time
with their families.
My neighbor has it and is on the verge of having to go to the hospital
in her 40s and no known underlying conditions
She doesnt think it is BS.
For the most part, the “experts” aren’t paid to tell you what they think. They are paid to tell you what you should think.
George Floyd was an evangelical Christian from Texas. The State of Minnesota is run by a Democrat Farm Labor, ie, Socialist Governor, Minneapolis by a DFL mayor, and the police department is run by a Socialist DFL police chief. These godless, anti-Christian leaders used godless anti-Christian police to put a hit on Christian George Floyd.
2. She obviously didn't avoid catching it by having her life turned upside down and her economy wrecked, did she? THAT was the "BS" I'm referring to.
Time to fire up the MAGA rallies again
She doesnt know. I suspect from her kid who was working during the lockdown but kid hasnt been tested for antibodies yet.
That might be true. I have heard that story.
Oh no, got the flu
Lockdowns lead to protests, riots, and looting.
Who knew?
Academia is the cause. Antifa is the effect.
At this point I think this is the biggest scam this planet has ever seen!!!
/s
People who have been conned often deny it long after the evidence is undeniable because nobody wants to admit that they were gullible enough to be deceived.
I hope your neighbor gets well soon.
Absolutely right. We are not allowed to go to restaurants but its ok to gather in huge crowds as long as they burn, steal and assault.
I have absolutely no confidence in our politicians at all.
The rats have two possible scenarios to beat Trump. The flu panic made either or both possible. The ongoing lockdowns put the economy in jeopardy, the flu BS made a mail in theft of the election possible. This racial strife was always anticipated, it happens every presidential election. Throwing away their two aces flu narrative for dead end race baiting is a great move for the dems.
Edited out a couple cuss words...
“Is this the end of the expert? If not, were on that trajectory with the medical communitys transparent shift regarding the lockdowns over the coronavirus outbreak. Businesses couldnt reopen because we needed to control the spread, flatten the curve, and ensure the hospitals were not overrun. Venturing out made you a selfish bastard. And then, a couple of weeks prior, though some of you were already poking holes through the narrative, there was a great reversal. Some were grounded in good news. New York City, the mecca of the US-based outbreak, saw deaths decline and hospitalizations stabilize. Hooray! Then, the CDC study showed that the mortality rate was around .04 percent, which makes this virus less deadly than the flu. Then, the CDC said that this virus doesnt spread as easily on surfacesthis was one of the main reasons for the stay-at-home order. Asymptomatic people touching stuff and passing on the pathogen. The curve was flattened. States not heavily impacted were set to reopen and the liberal media went haywire. Florida was supposed to be awash with bodies. That was over eight weeks agoand we still have no mountains of dead bodies. Some of us, myself included, overreacted. Initially, I think most were fine with the quarantine over the health care system overload and stopping the spread reasons, but some Democrats, in typical fashion, decided to move the goalposts to stay inside until we have a vaccine.
No. That was never possible. We would all be out of work. The overreach seen in some states is horrific but hardly a shock given the political leadership at the helm. Are we shocked New Jersey, deep-blue and insufferably liberal New Jersey, went off the rails in enforcing its lockdown measures? Measures that Gov. Phil Murphy admitted to drawing up without giving a thought to constitutional rightsno. It is time to reopen. And now, the liberal media and the health experts agree, but only because riots have sparked across the country that could be weaponized to make the Trump administration look bad.
George Floyd died under police custody in Minneapolis on May 25. Its all on video. Its heinous. Its an atrocity. Floyd died when arresting officer Derek Chauvin kept his knee on the back of his neck. He kept it there for nearly ten minutes. Floyd can be heard crying out that he was having trouble breathing. He was killed. Period. Chauvin was fired and charged with second-degree murder. The three other officers involved were also fired and charged with aiding and abetting murder.
Protests were held across the country, and many have devolved into full-blown riots. There should be outrage. In fact, the country was united in anger, but that breaks down when looting, vandalism, and mayhem become rampant, and that has happened in our cities. Oh right, the lockdowns, yestheyre over. Given how the medical community now says that racism is just as much a pandemic as COVID, the expert class has been exposed as true pod people. Weve gone from stay home and be a hero and help medical staff to get out there and protest or youre supporting white supremacy. Thats quite the 180-degree turn. Academia is infested with liberal bias, but as the woke legions graduate and continue to spread their cancer into other institutions, this is what you get. Pseudo-scientific nonsense and decisions based on bashing Trump.
Its outright madness. The chair of the NYC health committee actually said if there is a spike in COVID cases in the Big Apple, blame racism, not the rioters. If anything, it shows that being woke and politically correct probably exacerbated the outbreak when it first arrived in the city, as Trump was bashing China at the time. Chinese New Year was in full swing, come on down to show Trump what forand get exposed to a virus that was out of control at the time.
Its gone off the rails. The real danger is down the line. How can we trust these clowns again when a real deadly pathogen bubbles upand it will. As long as there is life on Earth, the virus will stick around. Its scary, but Trump-derangement from the professional Left, which dominates these fields of study, will be to blame.
You have to admit, this lockdown narrative was a well-executed strategy. The liberal media keeps up the doom and gloom news, which tanks the markets. The political class seeing this chooses the better safe than sorry approach and enacts stay-at-home order, and then the pinch on businesses begins. The hope was to keep fear alive and let this eat into Trumps re-election chances. Those who deviate are shamed. Rinse and repeat until the data started to show this was an overreaction. And now, with a new issue that can be used to attack Trump, get on out and riot.
Liberal reporter Michael Tracey, who has gone after other lefties for their insanity over Trump-Russia collusion, has been on a tear. First, he rightfully slammed the left-wing activist-media complex for being coddled babies who are totally insane. Now, hes set his sights on the medical folks who now say put COVID on pause, as if this is a video game, and smash racism.
Tracey kicked a hornet’s nest, and a whole lot of insanity came pouring out.
1,200 of the country’s most renowned public health “experts” have signed a letter calling outdoor mass gatherings “vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of Black people.” We are in the midst of a mass psychotic break https://t.co/Ka57iiu4PO; Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
Money quote: “This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives.” https://t.co/J771zB3riN; Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) June 5, 2020
The letter was drafted by infectious disease “experts” at the University of Washington, which has been integral in studying the coronavirus in the US. They write that “pervasive racism” is now “the paramount public health problem,” superseding the virus. WHAT THE @#$_!!!!!! Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
This is a professor of epidemiology at Johns Hopkins. What the absolute @#$_. We have to be witnessing one of the craziest overnight shifts in mass psychology... ever. Like, in all of human history https://t.co/NnNiTNussK; Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
Epidemiologists and public health “experts” have just nuked the credibility of their entire field. It’s astonishing https://t.co/riAi6gxoOh; Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 5, 2020
White male Michael Tracey doesn’t understand (?) that systematic racism is indeed a greater threat to health and life p/c than #COVID19, but it is. It doesn’t take a public health expert to know that racism kills BIPOC... you can see the discrepancies *in the pandemic* ffs https://t.co/KTODPsVXfL; outside agitator (@tarynfivek) June 5, 2020
Take a look at this tweet from a Johns Hopkins epidemiology professor who wrote, We should always evaluate the risks and benefits of efforts to control the virus. In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus.
I mean, even Politico is highlighting the odd turnaround here [emphasis mine]:
The injustice thats evident to everyone right now needs to be addressed, Abraar Karan, a Brigham and Womens Hospital physician whos exhorted coronavirus experts to amplify the protests’ anti-racist message, told me. “While I have voiced concerns that protests risk creating more outbreaks, the status quo wasnt going to stop #covid19 either,” he wrote on Twitter this week.
Its a message echoed by media outlets and some of the most prominent public health experts in America, like former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Tom Frieden, who loudly warned against efforts to rush reopening but is now supportive of mass protests. Their claim: If we dont address racial inequality, itll be that much harder to fight Covid-19. Theres also evidence that the virus doesnt spread easily outdoors, especially if people wear masks.
The experts maintain that their messages are consistentthat they were always flexible on Americans going outside, that they want protesters to take precautions and that they’re prioritizing public health by demanding an urgent fix to systemic racism.
But their messages are also confounding to many who spent the spring strictly isolated on the advice of health officials, only to hear that the need might not be so absolute after all. Its particularly nettlesome to conservative skeptics of the all-or-nothing approach to lockdown, who point out that many of those same public health expertsa group that tends to skew liberalwidely criticized activists who held largely outdoor protests against lockdowns in April and May, accusing demonstrators of posing a public health danger. Conservatives, who felt their own concerns about long-term economic damage or even mental health costs of lockdown were brushed aside just days or weeks ago, are increasingly asking whether these public health experts are letting their politics sway their health care recommendations.
[ ]
Conservatives also have seized on a Twitter thread by Drew Holden, a commentary writer and former GOP Hill staffer, comparing how politicians and pundits criticized earlier protests but have been silent on the new ones or even championed them.
I think whats lost on people is that there have been real sacrifices made during lockdown, Holden told me. People who couldnt bury loved ones. Small businesses destroyed. How can a health expert look those people in the eye and say it was worth it now?
[ ]
many say the protests are worth the risk of a possible Covid-19 surge, including hundreds of public health workers who signed an open letter this week that sought to distinguish the new anti-racist protests from the response to white protesters resisting stay-home orders.
Those protests against stay-at-home orders not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives, according to the letters nearly 1,300 signatories. Protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must be supported.
And this is how you turn a colossal event that possibly could have hurt Trump in 2020 and morph it into a massive in-kind contribution to his re-election effort. Why? Because liberals are stupid. Yes, their allies in the media did a swell job selling panic and trashing the market. And then thinking this reversal after everything thats been saidits just you cannot make it up. The liberal bias is explicitly clear and be prepared to defend every suggestion you make from here going out because the default position should be to look on these clowns with contempt and skepticism.
Sorry, small business owners protesting over these Democratic governors arbitrarily extending the lockdowns are not grounded in white supremacy. Also, do these experts thinks that black small business owners werent impacted by this quarantine? If anything, these people telling folks its ok to go outside and protest have done more to harm their communities than COVID ever could with the violent turn that has occurred. Minneapolis burned. The Big Apple descended into chaos. Cops are being targeted by mobs. Its mayhem out there, but its fine because orange man bad, right. The lockdowns are over. Ignore their advice from here going forward. Theyre finished
Between missing the fall of the Soviet Union, botching 9/11, fabricating Iraq WMD, botching the Arab Spring, lying about Iran’s nukes, telling us ISIS was no big deal, peddling the Russian collusion hoax, and lying about coronavirus, have The Experts been right about anything? Sean Davis (@seanmdav) June 5, 2020”
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