Posted on 06/05/2020 11:10:11 AM PDT by SJackson
MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. (FOX 9) – One of the police officers arrested and charged with aiding and abetting the murder of George Floyd was on his fourth day on the job when the incident occurred.
According to Earl Grey, the defense attorney for Thomas Lane, the rookie officer was on his fourth day on patrol.
“What would your state of mind be if you work your rear end off to become a cop and four days on the job, you’re accused of murder?” Grey asked, arguing that his client did not aid in a murder.
Lane, along with Tou Thao and J. Alexander Kueng face second-degree aiding and abetting murder and manslaughter charges. Derek Chauvin, a 19-year Minneapolis officer, is charged with second-degree murder in the case.
In videos from the scene, according to charging documents, Lane can be heard asking several times about rolling Floyd over and Chauvin said no.
“You’ve got a 20-year cop on the front and my guy’s back there with four days,” said Grey. “’Shall we roll him over?’ and he says, ‘No, we’ll wait for the ambulance’ twice. And then he says he’s suffering from a delirium? I don’t know what you’re supposed to do as a cop.”
During their first court appearances Thursday, Kueng’s attorney described the rookie officer as a “young African-American from North Minneapolis” who “wanted to make that community a better place.”
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Can you imagine being a juror? If you don’t vote guilty, you better have a plan to disappear.
Wait, what?
I agree.
“....He would love to see more anti-white anger and riots resulting from a hung jury or acquittal, especially if it is before the November elections ….”
And he really thinks that will help defeat Trump?
History says voters reaction to riots is more law & order not less! If that happens it will keep the base energized, might reduce black defection to Trump. None of those numbers are significant to defeat Trump. Might be good enough to keep some Rat Congress critters in place.
I could see this as an October Surprise.
Suppose they hold the cops on murder and abetting charges.
Then in September after the conventions but before the debates, the prosecutor drops the charges against the rookies. More protests ensue. The candidates are asked about it by the MSM during the debates and the MSM twists President Trump's answers.
Then, in the third week of October the prosecutor drops the charges against Chauvin, too. Then the riots resume.
Then, America goes to the polls.
-PJ
They would be labeled a coward, and be despised, and any rookie knows that.
I had maybe a year or a bit more on the job, and was in the main yard at Auburn prison (NY) one morning, standing next to the Sergeant's post. A call came in (Red Code) over the radio, to respond to the hospital, which was in the Admin Building of the prison...up front. All the male officers take off, leaving the Sergeant's post empty, and no other officers in the yard. I chose to stay, because the Sergeant's post is never supposed to be left empty when inmates are in the main yard. The incident was already under control by the time the group of officers got there, so they all returned to the yard. One of the officers who had been there 4-5 years longer than me came back and dressed me down for staying, called me a coward, etc. I knew what I had done was right, but I was never allowed to defend myself. And of course he labeled me a coward to all the other male officers.
Years later, I was a Sergeant at another prison by that time, and that same officer made Sergeant at my prison, and lo! and behold! the moron apologizes to me, telling me that I was right not to respond, because doing so would have left the main yard post empty, and admitted he'd been an a-hole at the time. He was still an a-hole in my eyes, because as a more senior officer, he should have realized that everyone leaving en masse from the yard was wrong, and had anything gone down while they were all gone, it would have been on them. There were no officers in the yard gun posts at the time because the full population wasn't in the yard at the time. They only had officers man the yard gun posts in the late afternoons and evenings when both yards were open.
If the rookies were paired with the two senior officers, Senior officers were the FTOs.
No problem there? Systemic incompetence.
I believe Lane twice tried to intervene on George’s behalf.
Excited delirium is the name for the condition they were discussing. Includes death from a combination of drugs.
And you expressed it well.
I think Floyd would have lived if it weren't for that neck hold. Which is just my opinion and I admit to being no medical expert. BUT, he also would have lived had he not been full of drugs and booze, in my opinion.
In other words, it was the combination of all those factors that caused Floyd's death as I see it.
I do think that the practice of knees on necks is probably something they should stop as a matter of course. A cop has no way of knowing what a suspect has consumed, or even what medical problems a perp might have.
There has to be a better way.
And for the record, and I said it on another thread, I believe that senior cop would have done the same thing had Floyd been a white person.
In other words, I don't think it was a racist thing.
Why, when, what, how much and who, for starters.
“They did not put a gun to his stomach like Floyd did to the pregnant women in Texas...”
If they convict the rookies, they can forget about police recruitment for a generation.
Is that what I said? Even close? Take a hike, loser.
Chauvin should NOT be convicted of 2nd degree. He was charged correctly, IMO, at 3rd degree. Even that may have been difficult to prove, with so much evidence yet to be revealed.
So what were you trying to say? Or was there even a point in there somewhere?
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The democrat controlled media delberately miss portrayed Floyd as an innocent black who was being forceably restrained because he was black. He was arrested for passing a counterfeit $20 dollar bill .When actually he was resisting arrest and was a threat if not secured by not mentioning his size or reporting that Floyd was removed from a squad car because he was acting up under the influence of drugs and also later was discovered to have COVID 19. Which suggests his physical condition may have led to his death which the media turned into a murder change and a charge of serious abuse by police because of police efforts that were tried to get him who under control Check out
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3850368/posts
Further confirmation here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3850910/posts Floyd on drugs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3851693/posts (confirm had covid19)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3852373/posts (2 cops were trainees)
This posting has comments that reveals that both the arresting officer and Floyd knew each other and had worked together in bar security
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3851100/posts
The results of politically induced miss reporting used earlier during and after the post Zimmmerman trial. Led to black gangs attacking non blacks found innocently traversing black neighborhoods and to a score of murders or life changing injuries and later attacks of theft and vandalism on local businesses as well as attacks and murders of police officers during that period.
There IS a better way and I've seen it many times on Cops with a handcuffed suspect trying to thrash about. It's a knee to the back, and if needed, leg irons for flailing legs. Choke holds were outlawed or against most department policy many years ago. While they work, they can cause asphyxiation depending on pressure, time, and the suspect's physical condition.
I've never seen a knee on the side of the throat with so much pressure and never even heard of it. It's obvious to me that his carotid artery was cut off with some on his windpipe that constricted air flow and why Floyd was sputtering he couldn't breath. Yes, his intoxication and physical problems could have attributed.
It was a wrong maneuver for the veteran cop. Floyd was down, cuffed, with 3 other officers standing by in case.
I worked Shore Patrol way back and was trained even then such a restraint could kill. You just don't put your body weight on someone's neck for that length of time. I also worked as a bouncer and had to confront a large guy with my hand around his larynx up against a wall. I made sure I didn't choke him too hard so he could answer my question, if he will leave I let go. He was so startled that a 5'10 guy could control him so easily. He was like 6'3". He left.
Wonderful, wonderful explanation.
I thank you for the time.
Somebody tell the Minneapolis that there is a better way.
It’s hard for me to imagine myself voting “guilty” on any charge connected to the junior cops.The kneeling cop was in charge.And no,this isn’t *anything* like Nazis claiming “I was just following orders”.
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