Open and shut 3rd degree murder in Minnesota.
The Statement of Probable Cause for arresting the policeman, charges him with 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.
In Minnesota, intent is not an element in 3rd degree murder, but Depraved Indifference is.
There is a 9-minute long, continuous, uncut, unedited, not-monkeyed-with video of the guy on the ground in cuffs.
The policeman doesn’t take his knee off the neck the whole time.
There are 3 or 4 bystanders maybe 6 feet away, two are videoing on their phones.
The guy says he can’t breathe.
He keeps the knee on the neck.
The guy passes out.
He keeps the knee on the neck.
The guy’s bowels/or bladder release—there’s a stream coming under the car.
He keeps the knee on the neck.
One of the bystanders identifies herself as a first responder and begs the cop to get off and check for a pulse.
He keeps the knee on the neck.
One of the other policemen who had been holding him down, checks for a pulse, and tells him, hey, the guy doesn’t have a pulse.
He doesn’t check for a pulse himself.
He doesn’t start CPR.
He keeps the knee on the neck for over two minutes (as recorded live on video while it happened from six feet away)
AFTER his fellow policeman says there’s no pulse.
At one point, Mr. Kneecap pulls out a can of mace to brandish at a bystander who tries to get closer to help the guy. He gets an angry look on his face. It’s the only time on the who video he shows anything but a look of smug stupidity.
There is no way in hell he escapes conviction on Murder 3.
Once the police have arrested you and put you in cuffs, they become responsible for your safety.
Once a guy passes out, a knee on the neck is excessive force. (Mr, Kneecap had 10 prior excessive force charges against him. The county attorney for at least part of that time, is now the Dem Senator from Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar, who was hoping to be VP on the Joe Biden ticket.)
Once a guy you have in cuffs has no pulse, kneeling on his neck is WAY excessive force. Zombie movies are fiction, guys without a pulse don’t suddenly become the undead and grab for your gun.
And for a 19-year veteran, to keep his knee on the neck of a guy with no pulse, for two minutes, on camera, in front of witnesses, after one of his fellow cops said there was no pulse?
Yeah, that’s kinda open-and-shut on murder 3, no matter how the guy’s heart stopped.
The Constitution is supposed to protect us against this kind of crap.
Hard to believe you’re still defending Floyd.....he was a dead man walking before the police even arrived.
You embarrass yourself.
Good job.
He doesn’t check for a pulse himself. He doesn’t start CPR...
If he had just pulled off at that point, rolled him over, and started CPR, I bet we wouldn't be putting out fires all over the country today.
The facts are the FACTS and you have them ALL correct.
What took place was a clear cut case of prosecutable MURDER.
“”””Yeah, that’s kinda open-and-shut on murder 3, no matter how the guy’s heart stopped.””””
How come? I was familiar with the rather scandalous similar case in Russia about 15 years ago. The cops were running a big operation against crack houses and one of the junkies detained refused to get into cruiser and a cop pushed him with a baton into abdomen and the rest shoved him into a car. He became sick and fell unconsciousness upon delivering to a station. Later died in hospital and autopsy said fractured spleen. The junkie appeared to be a nephew of some senator and he went ballistic over it, called the governor, every attorney, judge, had a precinct chief fired and so on. At the same time an expert testified that although the police action likely contributed to the outcome the victim’s organs were in poor condition due to a drug abuse and he could easily die the same way just sneezing too hard. The case against officers dragged for quite some time under pressure from a senator but ended in nothing anyway. The cops then sued judiciary and won a hefty settlement. And that is Russia. I think US has higher judicial standards.
I agree that the officer might have acted wrong in Floyd’s case but you can’t prosecute him for murder if there is no direct connection between his actions and the resulting death.
+1
I don’t know if the fact that he was 6’6” may have contributed to his overall health. He had recently lost his job and apparently was looking for another one. His size may have intimidated some of the officers at the scene. At any rate, here is a link for a local paper with more details.
Yeah, that’s kinda open-and-shut on murder 3, no matter how the guy’s heart stopped.
The Constitution is supposed to protect us against this kind of crap.
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Thank you
I haven’t seen everything you state, but if all correct, your assessment seems just. Not that I have sympathy for the criminal meth-head. He was a pile of doo, and this cop stepped in it.