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U.S. Warns That China's Expulsion of Navy Near Disputed Islands Is a 'Serious Threat' to Sea Travel
https://www.newsweek.com/ ^ | 5/28/20 | BY TOM O'CONNOR ON

Posted on 05/30/2020 12:31:32 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

he Chinese military has said it chased off a U.S. warship near a disputed set of islands in the South China Sea, but the Navy contended the vessel was acting within international law.

Senior Colonel Li Huamin, the spokesman for the Chinese People's Liberation Army's Southern Theater Command, said in a statement Thursday by official military outlets that the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Mustin "illegally intruded" into territorial waters near the Paracel Islands, known to China as the Xisha Islands, earlier that day. As a result, Li said Chinese sea and air units were dispatched to "warn off" and "expel" the vessel.

"The provocative actions by the United States have seriously undermined China's sovereignty and security interests, seriously violated international laws and regulations and severely damaged the peace and stability of the region," he said. "It is a brazen act of navigational hegemony."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Canada; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: australia; canada; china; disputedislands; hongkong; kag; maga; obmalegacy; paracelislands; southchinasea; taiwan; trump; unitedkingdom; usnavy; ussmustin; vietnam; xishaislands
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To: CatOwner
"China can take what they want, whenever they want, and the US won’t stop them."

I think you are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Just my opinion, but we may find out for sure soon enough.

21 posted on 05/30/2020 1:14:42 PM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: TBP

The chicom’s were touchy about the Paracels even way back in the early ‘70s. We were advised to give them a wide berth while flying patrols even then. Never laid eyes them but saw pretty much everything else in th South China Sea.

Ahhh. Those were good times. /s


22 posted on 05/30/2020 1:14:52 PM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

We need a bigger Navy?


23 posted on 05/30/2020 1:17:12 PM PDT by Chgogal (Wuhan Virus, Chinese Virus, Kung Fu Virus - Wuhan Chinese Kung Fu Virus aka CCP virus.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

i did not realize our great USN has standing orders to run away


24 posted on 05/30/2020 1:17:36 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, theyÂ’re excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: RomanSoldier19

Having been on several Freedom of Navigation exercises, I can assure everyone here this ship did not deviate from its planned course.

And was most certainly not “expelled”.

But Newsweek seems to have an affinity for the Chinese characterization.


25 posted on 05/30/2020 1:20:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: faithhopecharity

What makes you thing they ran away? The ship was in a perfectly legal area for exercising Freedom of the Seas”. Once the point has been made it’s best not to get belligerent because the other side can then state that they were exercising Freedom of the Seas. The whole transit thing is to make a point, nothing else.


26 posted on 05/30/2020 1:22:49 PM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: Zhang Fei

“What would a Navy ship on the wrong end of an AShM launch be permitted to do other than activate its anti-missile systems, and put some distance between itself and the source of the ordnance?”

Any ship fired upon with modern ordnance in international waters would empty its tubes.

And within 20mins the cavalry will arrive.

Some stupid bastard will have started a war.


27 posted on 05/30/2020 1:23:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CatOwner

“China can take what they want, whenever they want, and the US won’t stop them.”

That’s some dumbassed bullshit right there.


28 posted on 05/30/2020 1:24:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: absalom01
Xi is acting like a man who sees a rapidly closing window of opportunity.

China (Xi) acts like a window of opportunity is closing AND like a trapped animal with its back against the wall.

Doubly dangerous.

29 posted on 05/30/2020 1:27:25 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: absalom01

Starve the bastard Xi!

BOYCOTT CHINA!


30 posted on 05/30/2020 1:28:41 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) 2028!)
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To: Mariner

LOL

The Pentagon sent out a LtJG to brief on it.

Routine day. Nothing unusual.

And it enrages the PRC.


31 posted on 05/30/2020 1:30:53 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: RomanSoldier19

China is going more and more kinetic.... it seems to be a redo of when Hitler first attacked the West and then found the Soviets smiling and watching to be threatening as he found himself caught in the momentum, and so attacked the Soviets by surprise.


32 posted on 05/30/2020 1:35:24 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: RomanSoldier19
"Chased off" and "expelled" is Newsweek's and China's characterization of it. Allowing the enemies of America to frame the context of any situation or encounter is weak-minded and effeminate.

I'm not an expert on Naval strategy, but I suspect the movement and response of the US warship was a "testing of the waters' probing both the response and the capabilities of the Chinese. I think it accomplished the mission it went in there to do.

33 posted on 05/30/2020 1:38:30 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: RomanSoldier19

interesting thread about the chinese student issue

https://twitter.com/Xy5Z89/status/1266821646192717824


34 posted on 05/30/2020 1:40:52 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: JudgemAll

No matter what, nothing will stop what is coming.

Mandate of Heaven
The Mandate of Heaven is a Chinese political and religious teaching that was used in ancient and imperial China to justify the rule of the King or Emperor of China. According to this belief, Heaven — which embodies the natural order and will of the universe — bestows the mandate on a just ruler of China, the “Son of Heaven” of the “Celestial Empire”


35 posted on 05/30/2020 1:41:09 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: TBP

The time to put a stop to this was back one to two administrations ago.

The only way to shut down China, is to give it zero
international trade and cancel our trade debt with them.


36 posted on 05/30/2020 1:43:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: fidelis

The news media is not posted for information they dont provide anything; we are just using it as point of conversation.

All we know US Ships are traveling through ‘new Chinese “ territorial waters

hence here we are.


37 posted on 05/30/2020 1:43:49 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: absalom01

[Xi is acting like a man who sees a rapidly closing window of opportunity.

Dangerous times we live in.]


How do you distinguish between desperation and simple ambition? IMHO, Xi believes China has finally become strong enough to make these ventures the kind of bet a gambling man might take odds on. The shibboleth of our time is that war is hell, and no leader ever embarks on it except out of desperation. It’s, however, contrary to most of what we know about history. Leaders go to war for the same reason athletes compete in the Olympics - for personal fame and glory.

Kings go to war not because they need to, but because they want to. What they’re after is to make a name for themselves that will stand the test of time. By a country mile, the most famous Greek is Alexander, just as the most famous Roman is Caesar. That’s no accident. For better or for worse, conquerors will always have a special place in the history books. War is like a large scale hunt in which the guy who organized it and brought home a lot of trophies puts his name in neon lights for posterity.

Heck, even the losers become famous in ways nobody expected. Without his disastrous loss at Carrhae, just how well-known would the richest man in Rome, Crassus, be?

People who go on about Xi Jinping needing a distraction from domestic problems are ignoring everything we know about history. Chinese leaders are made in the mold of the leaders of powerful countries since probably the dawn of time - they did not sign up for their jobs to become glorified administrators for accountants and financiers. They are building this wealth so they can construct an army to acquire fame for themselves. Alexander and Caesar accumulated wealth to fight wars. They didn’t fight wars to accumulate wealth. The end game was, first and foremost, eternal fame, or infamy, if they failed.

Saddam Hussein had all the money he needed. What he wanted was to be mentioned in the same breath as Saladin. Even in failure, he has placed his name in a more prominent position than any of his Arab contemporaries, with the exception of bin Laden.


38 posted on 05/30/2020 1:52:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Mariner

[Any ship fired upon with modern ordnance in international waters would empty its tubes.

And within 20mins the cavalry will arrive.

Some stupid bastard will have started a war.]


My impression is that ROEs depend on presidential policy. Obama let an entire boat and its crew be captured by Iran.


39 posted on 05/30/2020 1:55:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: RoosterRedux

‘Hot’ probably gonna happen.
Just Do It while we still have the military advantage.


40 posted on 05/30/2020 1:55:25 PM PDT by A strike (" Was that wrong? Should I not have done this? " - Costanza)
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