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Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy
The Washington Times ^ | Friday, May 29, 2020 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 05/29/2020 1:55:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation, based on the medical examiner’s initial report.

Preliminary findings from a Tuesday autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation,” according to the criminal complaint filed Friday against former officer Derek Michael Chauvin.

“Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney. “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”

The Minneapolis police officer fired earlier this week was charged Friday with third-degree murder and manslaughter after kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Video showed he was unresponsive for the last 2 minutes and 53 seconds.

“Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous,” the complaint said.

According to the filing, officers confronted Mr. Floyd after receiving a 911 call saying that he had paid for merchandise at Cup Foods with a phony $20 bill. They found him nearby in his vehicle with an adult male and female.

Mr. Floyd, who was six feet tall and weighed over 200 pounds, was handcuffed and led to the squad car, but resisted getting inside, saying he was claustrophobic.

While standing, he said repeatedly he couldn’t breathe. Mr. Floyd struggled as officers tried to force him into the car and fell to the ground. Two officers held him down while Officer Chauvin pressed his knee on the suspect’s neck.

Mr. Floyd said “I can’t breathe” multiple times, as well as

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: causeofdeath; fakenews; georgefloyd; georgefloydautopsy; georgefloydbackstory; greatwhitedefendant; kangaroocourt; minneapolis; mn; zhangfei
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To: Spirochete

Just join the rioters and loot yourself a big screen TV already.


201 posted on 05/29/2020 3:47:27 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Paddy Irish
>>>These cops are innocent.

No - you are just not smart enough to understand the law. Underlying conditions precipitating a death don't alleviate you from responsibility. Good grief.

The stupid is strong here.

202 posted on 05/29/2020 3:48:20 PM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: Zhang Fei

And thus the coverup begins.


203 posted on 05/29/2020 3:48:22 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Paddy Irish

“I am going to wait for medical to arrive for the suspect in Custody!”
“I think I’ll press my Knee into his kneck until they get here.”
Said no rational person ever JACKASS!


204 posted on 05/29/2020 3:49:17 PM PDT by Right Brigade
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To: Paddy Irish

There was one cop on his neck and three others on his body. Not sure why everyone cannot remember this fact.

Couple this with an off duty first responder begging for a pulse check after the man became unresponsive, and the officers not even doing that? After he is completely unresponsive?

No, this is negligence at the very minimum. A subdued man is the responsibility of the officers at the scene.

Also if you do not at least see excessive force, even after the man is unconscious, then you cannot be helped.

If this had been my son, a hell of alot more than Minneapolis would be burning. It may not have came that day or the next, but rest assured it would’ve been coming, and hell would be coming with it.


205 posted on 05/29/2020 3:49:18 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: snarkytart

[Any potential toxicity findings...hmmm...so toxicity report not in.
Bad heart, hypertension, and if he was on drugs pretty much any kind of stress could a sent him into a heart attack.]


We once hosted a birthday party for an acquaintance. He drank a couple of glasses of wine and became as stiff as a board. We called 911 and had paramedics revive him. Never set foot in a hospital. Turns out he was an undiagnosed hypertensive. Then again, he was neither an alcoholic nor a drug user. Nor a large person who had served time for multiple felonies and just passed a counterfeit bill, so there was no call for cops to hold him down since it was a clear-cut medical emergency.


206 posted on 05/29/2020 3:49:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: neverevergiveup

Thanks for an expert opinion.


207 posted on 05/29/2020 3:51:56 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: moehoward

People don’t deserve to be killed for poor judgement.


208 posted on 05/29/2020 3:53:17 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Pravious

According to some here, yes. If cops arrest or restrain someone in bad health and they drop dead the cops should be charged with murder.


209 posted on 05/29/2020 3:55:05 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: fuzzylogic

You are absolutely correct, and it makes us all look bad when we try to make excuses for people who don’t deserve excuses.

I have extreme respect for the job that the police take on. That said, because it’s such an important job the people who do it need to be able to control their emotions, use good judgment, and not let personal feelings or biases, or fear, affect how they do their jobs. It’s a very high risk job, and they should be paid more because of this. That said, if you accept that risk, you have to put the safety of those you are policing at the same level as any life - even if you feel threatened.


210 posted on 05/29/2020 3:57:12 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: neverevergiveup
The police involved SHOULD be charged. I'm a doc,
Were you on the scene "doc"?

Was there any "doc" on the scene?

Do you expect police officers should have your medical knowledge "doc"?

If your grandfather, or father had/has coronary artery disease and they died of a myocardial infarction or an arrhythmia when someone mugged them, wouldn't you feel that the mugger was responsible for their death?
NO! and neither should you. Only if the mugger, or in this case the police, knew his medical condition.

On the other hand, under the same conditions you describe to blame a mugger/cop, if they tested positive in a nursing home and died. Who then "doc"

211 posted on 05/29/2020 3:57:45 PM PDT by lewislynn (IT'S NOT A PANDEMIC. IT'S PANDEMONIUM.)
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To: rxsid

Thank you for that link!

It is worth reading all the way through. The following suggests that the position used by the officer may not be a cause of his death.

“Based on these findings, PMRP may result in a transient pattern of restricted pulmonary function, but the lack of evidence for hypoxia or hypoventilation suggests that factors other than body positioning appear to be more important determinants for sudden, unexpected death. Nonetheless, respiratory muscle fatigue resulting from exertion and struggle against restraints (exertion vs. position asphyxia) cannot be excluded nor can potentially fatal pre-existing problems with central cardiac output, oxygen saturation, or oxygen use.6,26,28,34”


212 posted on 05/29/2020 4:00:54 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: LostInBayport
The officers called for medical very early in the process....

why the knee on the neck then?

To hold him down until medical help came genius.
213 posted on 05/29/2020 4:01:46 PM PDT by lewislynn (IT'S NOT A PANDEMIC. IT'S PANDEMONIUM.)
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To: walkingdead

Hell is coming to those cops someday, when they stand before the Judgement Seat of God.


214 posted on 05/29/2020 4:06:00 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Grimmy
Just join the rioters and loot yourself a big screen TV already.

I don;t watch TV. I'm more of an AM radio guy.

215 posted on 05/29/2020 4:06:14 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Gutless Old Party)
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To: Zhang Fei

He said he was in pain and couldn’t breath. Instead of getting him medical help, he stayed on him. The police officer contributed to his death. He would not have died if he did not do that to him. He’s guilty. He should be charged accordingly. I hope they throw the book at him. His pompous demeanor just made it all the worse.


216 posted on 05/29/2020 4:06:30 PM PDT by HollyB (Cv timeline)
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To: Zhang Fei

He said he was in pain and couldn’t breath. Instead of getting him medical help, he stayed on him. The police officer contributed to his death. He would not have died if he did not do that to him. He’s guilty. He should be charged accordingly. I hope they throw the book at him. His pompous demeanor just made it all the worse.


217 posted on 05/29/2020 4:06:33 PM PDT by HollyB (Cv timeline)
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To: Spirochete

Found in the article “Excited Delerium”. I am tending toward not blaming the officers.

“Based on these findings, PMRP may result in a transient pattern of restricted pulmonary function, but the lack of evidence for hypoxia or hypoventilation suggests that factors other than body positioning appear to be more important determinants for sudden, unexpected death. Nonetheless, respiratory muscle fatigue resulting from exertion and struggle against restraints (exertion vs. position asphyxia) cannot be excluded nor can potentially fatal pre-existing problems with central cardiac output, oxygen saturation, or oxygen use.6,26,28,34”


218 posted on 05/29/2020 4:07:27 PM PDT by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: TheDon
George apparently made decisions that day that led to his being in that position. He is responsible for his own death.

Yeah take that line of defense to trial and see how far that takes you.

219 posted on 05/29/2020 4:07:40 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: lewislynn
To hold him down until medical help came genius.

If he was unresponsive, why did he need to be held down?
220 posted on 05/29/2020 4:08:33 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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