Posted on 05/29/2020 1:55:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation, based on the medical examiner’s initial report.
Preliminary findings from a Tuesday autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation,” according to the criminal complaint filed Friday against former officer Derek Michael Chauvin.
“Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney. “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”
The Minneapolis police officer fired earlier this week was charged Friday with third-degree murder and manslaughter after kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Video showed he was unresponsive for the last 2 minutes and 53 seconds.
“Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous,” the complaint said.
According to the filing, officers confronted Mr. Floyd after receiving a 911 call saying that he had paid for merchandise at Cup Foods with a phony $20 bill. They found him nearby in his vehicle with an adult male and female.
Mr. Floyd, who was six feet tall and weighed over 200 pounds, was handcuffed and led to the squad car, but resisted getting inside, saying he was claustrophobic.
While standing, he said repeatedly he couldn’t breathe. Mr. Floyd struggled as officers tried to force him into the car and fell to the ground. Two officers held him down while Officer Chauvin pressed his knee on the suspect’s neck.
Mr. Floyd said “I can’t breathe” multiple times, as well as
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Just join the rioters and loot yourself a big screen TV already.
No - you are just not smart enough to understand the law. Underlying conditions precipitating a death don't alleviate you from responsibility. Good grief.
The stupid is strong here.
And thus the coverup begins.
“I am going to wait for medical to arrive for the suspect in Custody!”
“I think I’ll press my Knee into his kneck until they get here.”
Said no rational person ever JACKASS!
There was one cop on his neck and three others on his body. Not sure why everyone cannot remember this fact.
Couple this with an off duty first responder begging for a pulse check after the man became unresponsive, and the officers not even doing that? After he is completely unresponsive?
No, this is negligence at the very minimum. A subdued man is the responsibility of the officers at the scene.
Also if you do not at least see excessive force, even after the man is unconscious, then you cannot be helped.
If this had been my son, a hell of alot more than Minneapolis would be burning. It may not have came that day or the next, but rest assured it would’ve been coming, and hell would be coming with it.
[Any potential toxicity findings...hmmm...so toxicity report not in.
Bad heart, hypertension, and if he was on drugs pretty much any kind of stress could a sent him into a heart attack.]
Thanks for an expert opinion.
People don’t deserve to be killed for poor judgement.
According to some here, yes. If cops arrest or restrain someone in bad health and they drop dead the cops should be charged with murder.
You are absolutely correct, and it makes us all look bad when we try to make excuses for people who don’t deserve excuses.
I have extreme respect for the job that the police take on. That said, because it’s such an important job the people who do it need to be able to control their emotions, use good judgment, and not let personal feelings or biases, or fear, affect how they do their jobs. It’s a very high risk job, and they should be paid more because of this. That said, if you accept that risk, you have to put the safety of those you are policing at the same level as any life - even if you feel threatened.
The police involved SHOULD be charged. I'm a doc,Were you on the scene "doc"?
Was there any "doc" on the scene?
Do you expect police officers should have your medical knowledge "doc"?If your grandfather, or father had/has coronary artery disease and they died of a myocardial infarction or an arrhythmia when someone mugged them, wouldn't you feel that the mugger was responsible for their death?
NO! and neither should you. Only if the mugger, or in this case the police, knew his medical condition.
On the other hand, under the same conditions you describe to blame a mugger/cop, if they tested positive in a nursing home and died. Who then "doc"
Thank you for that link!
It is worth reading all the way through. The following suggests that the position used by the officer may not be a cause of his death.
“Based on these findings, PMRP may result in a transient pattern of restricted pulmonary function, but the lack of evidence for hypoxia or hypoventilation suggests that factors other than body positioning appear to be more important determinants for sudden, unexpected death. Nonetheless, respiratory muscle fatigue resulting from exertion and struggle against restraints (exertion vs. position asphyxia) cannot be excluded nor can potentially fatal pre-existing problems with central cardiac output, oxygen saturation, or oxygen use.6,26,28,34”
The officers called for medical very early in the process....To hold him down until medical help came genius.why the knee on the neck then?
Hell is coming to those cops someday, when they stand before the Judgement Seat of God.
I don;t watch TV. I'm more of an AM radio guy.
He said he was in pain and couldn’t breath. Instead of getting him medical help, he stayed on him. The police officer contributed to his death. He would not have died if he did not do that to him. He’s guilty. He should be charged accordingly. I hope they throw the book at him. His pompous demeanor just made it all the worse.
He said he was in pain and couldn’t breath. Instead of getting him medical help, he stayed on him. The police officer contributed to his death. He would not have died if he did not do that to him. He’s guilty. He should be charged accordingly. I hope they throw the book at him. His pompous demeanor just made it all the worse.
Found in the article “Excited Delerium”. I am tending toward not blaming the officers.
“Based on these findings, PMRP may result in a transient pattern of restricted pulmonary function, but the lack of evidence for hypoxia or hypoventilation suggests that factors other than body positioning appear to be more important determinants for sudden, unexpected death. Nonetheless, respiratory muscle fatigue resulting from exertion and struggle against restraints (exertion vs. position asphyxia) cannot be excluded nor can potentially fatal pre-existing problems with central cardiac output, oxygen saturation, or oxygen use.6,26,28,34”
Yeah take that line of defense to trial and see how far that takes you.
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