Posted on 05/26/2020 1:32:43 PM PDT by SJackson
A black man says he asked a white woman in Central Park to put her dog on a leash.
Then, video shows her calling police and telling emergency operators that the man was threatening her and her dog. The woman, who has been identified as Amy Cooper, has apologized. But by Tuesday afternoon she was fired from her job at an investment management firm.
"Following our internal review of the incident in Central Park yesterday, we have made the decision to terminate the employee involved, effective immediately. We do not tolerate racism of any kind at Franklin Templeton," the company said in a statement posted to Twitter.
She looked up what the bird watcher did FIRST before he released THAT video, he enticed the dog with treats to get the dog away from her, in his own words, read down:
It will not format for this page, so here is the link
If she was dumb enough to put her employer on her social media sites then she deserves what she got. Employers take a dim view of being linked with employees who practice, shall we say, unpopular views.
I shouldn't have to point out that there are plenty of professions where one could lose a professional license or be disbarred for behavior that has nothing to do with their profession, never mind with their employer.
(If you really didn't know this, keep it in mind.)
“Untrue
Employment is “At Will” in many states; they don’t NEED a reason.”
You need to read the law before commenting on old wive’s tales you’ve read on the Internet.
>>Dogs not on leash bite people. Some people are very scared of dogs (like me).
He could have walked away if he was that scared of the dog. I don’t know why she didn’t just put the damn dog on the leash she was standing there holding. She’s more scary than the dog in my opinion, I would have got the hell away from her.
“Even Miss Cooper had stated that her action were wrong.”
You missed the point entirely. Employers cannot fire people for actions they take on their personal time.
Did you watch the video. In my opinion she was being a prissy busybody. And yes, he made a big deal about the leash but she was in the wrong, and she was trying to make out like he was the one in the wrong. If she would have leashed the dog and walked on, it probably would have turned out differently.
Anyway, I don't even care about all that, did you watch the video? She practically strangled the dog. She seemed to have no care for the distress the dog was in. To me that says she's not a good person and I don't care what happens to her, fired, had to surrender the dog. Anyone who can't take care of a defenseless animal deserves anything they get.
Me, too. From my work as a mail carrier and a precinct walker, I have learned to be wary of loose dogs.
Giving a dog a treat is a threat?
He states in the story he carries them for off leash animals.
I carry dog treats in my car because I sometimes run into very rude dogs. The treats break the ice.
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A lot of letter carriers carry dog treats too to “bribe” barking or nervous dogs. You feed a dog and its your friend for life.
No, I understand that. I’m just a bit surprised they fired her so quickly when we didn’t see what happened before this.
I see in the story though they fired her because of racism. Unless he did something awfully bad, which I doubt, I understand their reason.
“Employers cannot fire people for actions they take on their personal time.”
Is that a federal law or a state law?
Yep.
No news there.
He enticed the dog to get her to put the leash on. He turned the tables on her. Big deal. He didn’t say I’m going to wring the dogs neck or make a move to hurt anyone. He relied on her instinct to want to control her dog rather than have it approach a stranger for treats.
He sounded genuinely frightened when he said please do call the police and thanked her afterwards. She turned on the waterworks on the phone to the police like a 2 year old trying to get her way. If he wasn’t recording she would have said he assaulted her.
White Woman Who Called Police On Black Bird-Watcher
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Heck of a title by NPR and needlessly framed, imo.
Was the man watching ‘black’ birds or was he a black
man watching birds.
The ethnicity of the human doing the watching has no
bearing at all. IMO
You confuse what you think should b true with the facts.
Can my employer fire me for what I do on my own time, outside of work?
The answer to this seemingly simple question is: it depends. It depends on the activity involved, and whether that activity has any legal protection under your state’s laws. Generally speaking, if there is no law specifically protecting you from being fired for the activity under consideration, and if you are not a union or governmental employee with special protection against being fired without a reason, then you are employed at will.
Employment-at-will means that both the employer and the employee can end the employment relationship at any time without notice or reason. This means the employer has the right to terminate your employment at any time, for any reason, for no reason at all, or for a bad reason, so long as the reason is not illegal—even if your performance has been outstanding. For more information, see our site’s at-will employment page.
So if the reason for your termination is not illegal under the laws of your state, then yes, your employer can fire you for what you do on your own time, outside of work.
https://www.workplacefairness.org/off-duty-conduct
That she stated her intent to make such a call sunk her. (A woman who really felt threatened would have scrambled to get away first and foremost, and then made the call from a crowded place.)
Most States have laws against private affairs termination and all States have tort cases that prohibits companies from thinking they own you if they pay for work. Just because someone pays you for work today doesn’t mean they get to dictate what you do until you arrive for work the next day.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
He had a perfect right to tell her that her dog should be leashed under the circumstances. She had no right to falsely accuse him (to the police) of threatening her (a lie as the video shows). Stupidity alone (and falsely and unjustifiably trying to cause someone trouble with the police) are both ample grounds for being fired. The racial aspect just adds fire to racial animosity of which we have more than enough.
“ME: We’ll see about that.”
“That’s a threat. I probably wouldn’t call the police about someone threatening my dog, but if I did I’d describe the perp.”
That’s not a threat.
Arguably he was the Karen in this, and she reacted poorly.
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