Posted on 05/23/2020 8:18:42 PM PDT by lightman
In a recent op-ed, Steve Pandelidis advocated for the so-called herd immunity approach to the coronavirus pandemic. His piece was very poorly timed as he cited Sweden as a success story. He should know that Sweden followed his herd immunity approach and had the most COVID-19 deaths per capita in Europe last week. He should also know that Sweden's case fatality rate is far higher than most other countries.
Dr. Pandelidis is not an expert on viruses or pandemics....
Dr. Pandelidis lives the life of a very privileged person. He fails to acknowledge that an uncontrolled coronavirus in relatively rural York County (resulting from going to green too quickly) may very lead to many more cases and deaths...
In his op ed, Dr. Pandelidis also leans heavily on a fallacy. He wrongly implies that, because precautions worked, that means precautions weren't necessary....
York County just went to yellow. If, by the end of June or July, the number of cases and deaths are lower than they are now, great, he was sort of right..
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Anyone with 4Chan connections?
This a-hoe needs a doxing he will never forget.
Its too early to make judgements on Swedens approach.
In four or five years well have a better picture.
100,000 Americans died of the flu in 1969 and a million worldwide.
80,000 Americans died of the flu the winter of 2018.
We didn’t shut down the world then.
Why now?
Typical leftist. Lie with confidence and no one will check. Last time I checked, Sweden’s mortality, while higher than the US and many other countries, was about the same as the world average, meaning they are also LOWER than a roughly equal number of nations. So if they’re average, and have been less intrusive, that proves the heavy-handedness didn’t help. Obviously.
>> [Sweden] had the most COVID-19 deaths per capita in Europe last week.
Really? Current data shows Sweden’s case fatality @ 12% and per-capita @ 38.5 well below its EU neighbors.
Swartz ... this guy again. One of Wolf’s buddies. I guess he is getting paid by Wolf one way or another to write for the York Daily Record since he has been doing it so much lately.
We didnt shut down the world then.
DUH...because that wasn't a Presidential Election year?
...He should know that Sweden followed his herd immunity approach and had the most COVID-19 deaths per capita in Europe last week....
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If by deaths per capital the misinformed Mr Swatz means the functional equivalent of death per million (to be able to adjust the cases to account for population size) then hes wrong. France, Italy, Spain and the UK have higher deaths per million. If he is so completely wrong about this, why would we think his powers of projection to the future are any better.
Di'nja know that excuses being mathematically challenged?
Yeah, whatever happened to 4chan?
The author reverts to the reverse fallacy: because the precautions were unnecessary, he wrongly implies that they worked.
Authors 2nd fallacy:
he should know that Sweden followed his herd immunity approach and had the most COVID-19 deaths per capita in Europe last week. He should also know that Sweden's case fatality rate is far higher than most other countries.
The author has not demonstrated that Sweden's policy (not strictly a herd immunity policy as alleged) caused a higher case fatality rate. Never mind what percentage of the population gets the virus the relevant question is why was Sweden's death rate among those who actually get the virus greater than its Scandinavian cousins?
To make his case the author has to show us that overloading of hospitals (failure to flatten the curve) caused people to die. He did not do that respecting Sweden but with sleight-of-hand talks about England where both the percentage of population and the case death rate are high. Were the hospitals in England overloaded? He does not say.
Yes, of course the infection rate in the population of Sweden is high but why is the case death rate also high? Why does the latter suggest the former is an improper policy? Yes Sweden's case death rate is higher than its Scandinavian cousins, but it is not higher than its European neighbors.
If the purpose in imposing social distancing is only to flatten the curve to prevent hospitals from being overloaded, are we not all destined to get this virus? How have we saved lives? Have we only prolong the course of the virus at the cost of breaking down our economy and our healthcare system overall? Have we saved lives net or lost lives net? Where, therefore, is the advantage of shutting down the economy to gain nothing in reducing the case death rate?
Unless the author wants to argue that the social distancing regimes that were imposed on the people saves lives because they buy time to develop treatment modalities or an immunity drug, what is the point?
Dog whistle obedience training.
Chi-Com conditioning
Power and control
Evil.
The writer of the article is a b.tch.
Yeah people will die in larger numbers MAYBE if we open up everything.
It’s better than a country of 350 million being destroyed.
And I’m calling anybody that thinks locking down or holding off or standing 6.2 feet apart a B.TCH
I don’t know if the statements about Sweden are true and they are in somewhat worse shape as far as new cases and deaths go.
BUT I DO KNOW THEY STILL HAVE AN ECONOMY.
And the number of lives that saved DWARFS this Bull### faggot virus whose victims’ averages ages are 175
Wow your reply to this crappy article was GREAT.
I just called him a b.tch :)
Good thing to have brighter folks on the board!!
Agreed. Its been clear after the first couple of weeks of this suicidal shutdown that the 'cure' was going to be worse than anything that this 'killer virus' had to offer.
I also agree that Nathanbedford's analysis and essays are always excellent.
He gets his inspiration from my trashy, vulgar posts :)
I did all the hard work! He just builds on them :)
The guy writes great.
Why now?
We have not seen a virus this deadly since the 1917-1919 H1N1 influenza virus that killed 50 million people around the world. Also, people who have Covid-19 are contagious before symptoms appear, meaning that even if you avoid obviously sick people, you could still catch it. Furthermore, there is no vaccine for Covid-19, and not likely to be one soon.
We need to get rid of Covid-19 now, before it becomes entrenched in the population. We still have a window to do that.
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