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Stop Believing in Science. Science is not a religion. It doesn’t offer virtue or certainty.
Front Page Magazine ^ | Fri May 22, 2020 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 05/23/2020 8:00:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

The alchemists and astrologists who were the distant ancestors of modern science believed in a world of absolute truths. Uncovering the right formula, searching the sweep of sky, offered total control over the otherwise mysterious forces of the universe. Our current knowledge of the way that things are tells us that while the universe may have absolute realities, our understanding of them will never be so.

Quantum indeterminacy has left us with a universe in which the drive to know is constrained by our search for knowledge. Existence seems to be built to challenge our hubris, forcing us to think about our flaws, limiting us to dimensions and points in time, and asking us to accept what we cannot know.

The universe is not a machine that we can take apart and rebuild. It is built to be partly unknowable.

And the more we study the universe, the more we understand the importance of the observer. Science is not the genius jumping out of his bath, shouting, “Eureka”, and running through the streets, without the benefit of his cloak, to jot down the formula: it’s the ability to defy the variability of the universe by achieving the intended results, and replicating them over and over again by different observers.


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To: Gene Eric

Science has been made into a cheap whore.


21 posted on 05/23/2020 8:23:31 PM PDT by Red6
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I disagree with the “certainty” part.

The point of science was to discern the temporal universe. That’s a term you don’t hear anymore because it referred to the universe as God created it. Using science we could be certain about things in the physical world - that maggots don’t spontaneously generate on rotted meat, that it’s possible for man to fly, that we can split the atom and use that for clean and efficient power as well as bombs - which is where we point out what science is NOT.

Science is not philosophy nor is it something you can base your life on.
leftists will throw out terms like “we have the science to show that guns are bad” or “Science shows us there are 37 genders” when neither of these stand up to scrutiny or reproducible results - the very foundation for real science.

You can use math to “prove” that Universal Basic Income works - the problem is the basics of that proof are based on faulty assumptions (but don’t argue that!)

Science, at its best, is pure rationale and reason and the study of the OBJECTIVE world. The problem isn’t science itself - the problem is the leftists who have abandoned logic and reason for pure ideology (along with their “science”). You only need to look at what our “top men” said about Biden making a racist comment about “You aint black”. Did they agree it was racist? No. In fact they defended the statement as TRUE.

THAT basic fallacy of lies and misrepresentation permeates everything today. How can you even have science when white is black and black is white and leftists get run over at the next zebra crossing.


22 posted on 05/23/2020 8:26:22 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: CodeToad

>> The author obviously doesn’t know what science is. Never did the idiot state it.

Greenfield is a solid contributor, and he’s right about the manipulative nature of “science”.


23 posted on 05/23/2020 8:27:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric ( Don't be a statist!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Most of the advancements of the last 500 years are due to science and capitalism, inventions, exploration, expanding human knowledge, etc.


24 posted on 05/23/2020 8:29:31 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: DesertRhino

Just as religion has been used by evil people, including today (jihadism) science has also been used by evil people.


25 posted on 05/23/2020 8:31:45 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have learned through this BS debacle that I hate science as much as I hate government and a good portion of society. At one time,all were honorable in America with very few exceptions and if a segment of society strayed,it would be corrected. America right now is a run away train.


26 posted on 05/23/2020 8:32:43 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: stuckincali

And Christianity.

Yes, I’m serious.

The much-maligned Christian outlook opened up freedom and even science itself. Only to be stabbed in the back.


27 posted on 05/23/2020 8:48:06 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: shanover

There is science and then there is “science.”

I believe it is “science” that you hate.


28 posted on 05/23/2020 8:50:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: Gene Eric

“Science is too often centered around politics.”

Not real science.


29 posted on 05/23/2020 8:50:55 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: stuckincali

I think you are missing my point. Science is not just something, sometimes misused. It is THE common central claim of the most anti-human movements of the modern era.

There is nothing wrong with actual science, but when a government starts claiming innocence because they are “only following science”, you can be certain you are dealing with a totalitarian.


30 posted on 05/23/2020 8:58:56 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Vermont Lt

“Makes the right sound like a bunch of morons.”

How so?

Saying I believe in science is ludicrous.

Science doesn’t believe in science. There’s no issue of belief or non-belief.

Science has nothing to do with believing in something or not believing in something.


31 posted on 05/23/2020 8:59:42 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Leftist “Religion” of Science - bump for later...….


32 posted on 05/23/2020 9:00:41 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Our current knowledge of the way that things are tells us that while the universe may have absolute realities, our understanding of them will never be so.”

Yet you claim absolute understanding of the truth of your statement.


33 posted on 05/23/2020 9:04:45 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: stuckincali

“Most of the advancements of the last 500 years are due to science and capitalism, inventions, exploration, expanding human knowledge, etc.”

Absolutely and we don’t have to believe in it for it to be true.

It’s true no matter what we believe in.


34 posted on 05/23/2020 9:05:30 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Author: “quantum”
Me: “You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”


35 posted on 05/23/2020 9:06:55 PM PDT by Taipei
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trust science, not scientists.


36 posted on 05/23/2020 9:08:57 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism requires slavery.)
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To: stuckincali

Yet, in the last 500 years, there has never been a time that you could have government by science. In the 1840s, the idea of sanitation was put forth and the doctor was driven from the profession.

Science, even at it’s very best, is an exceedingly poor choice as a form of government.


37 posted on 05/23/2020 9:09:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Pneuma sound

Amen


38 posted on 05/23/2020 9:10:45 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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To: Gene Eric
Science is too often centered around politics

Science is never centered around politics. Science is a process of trying to understand the world by explaining observed phenomenon, the more general the explanation consistent with a broad range of observation, the more important the finding.

What fallible humans do invoking science is a different matter.

39 posted on 05/23/2020 9:11:17 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: dp0622

Thanks for that outline of my next screenplay.


40 posted on 05/23/2020 9:12:01 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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