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Contact tracing? No thanks. Andy Schlafly drubs GOP governor for spending millions to track his citizens
wnd.com ^ | 5/19/2020 | Andy Schlafly

Posted on 05/20/2020 7:27:42 AM PDT by rktman

First a Dallas hair salon owner was imprisoned for opening her store to earn a living. Next Texas has signed a $295 million contract for "contact tracing," by which law-abiding citizens will have to submit to monitoring about when, where and with whom they have been.

While this sounds like a dark episode in the history of the communist Soviet Union or China, it is being promoted by Democratic governors today on a massive scale never accepted in the United States. It even extends into liberty-conscious, conservative Texas.

Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., the chairman of the conservative Freedom Caucus, pointed out on the floor of the House that contact tracing would "allow big tech companies to surveil" citizens and "then turn that accumulated information over to the government." Republican state legislators and Rudy Giuliani have likewise criticized the proposals for vast contact tracing.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chips; justsayno; trackers
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Sounds like there may be chips in someones future. Uh, just say no to Mr. Chips. (gates)
1 posted on 05/20/2020 7:27:42 AM PDT by rktman
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I think what terrifies me most about this scheme is not the scheme itself but the fact that nearly 50% of the country is okay with the idea of it. Put aside the Biblical connotations, this is literally putting your life and everything about you in the hands of corporations and governments. Leftists decry big corporation at every corner but are okay with the idea of letting them track everything about us? And they’re stridently against government when a Republican is in office but willing to give everything over to government when a liberal Democrat like Obama is in office?

Unfortunately, just like electronic medical records, this is going to become a standard sometime in the next 50 years, I suspect. Camel’s nose is already in the tent.


2 posted on 05/20/2020 7:32:56 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: rktman

What is it going to take before We the people say “ENOUGH”?

Or was Eric Holder right we called us all cowards? Governors in PA and Michigan have said the same thing.


3 posted on 05/20/2020 7:35:06 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: rktman

In this age of electronic medical records, there is no such thing as privacy. Any competent hacker, in or out of government, can get whatever information they desire, write a program and track your movements, behavior, preferences, purchases and just about anything you do.


4 posted on 05/20/2020 7:35:36 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: rktman

Bill Gates did not commit suicide.


5 posted on 05/20/2020 7:35:55 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba ("It's a lie. It's all lies.")
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

What are tonight’s lottery numbers?


6 posted on 05/20/2020 7:37:01 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (Welcf theome to North Mexico, Gringo's it...)
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I won’t cooperate with the tracers. “Sorry, my memory just isn’t what it used to be,. I can’t recall a single person I’ve been in contact with.”


8 posted on 05/20/2020 7:40:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

ditto- none of their business who I have been around. I’m an island


9 posted on 05/20/2020 7:44:47 AM PDT by southernindymom ( IT)
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To: rktman

Nazi brownshirts.


10 posted on 05/20/2020 7:49:41 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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“Sorry, my memory just isn’t what it used to be,. I can’t recall a single person I’ve been in contact with.”

My memory would be more effective.
Contact name: Puddin' Tane
Address: Down the drain
Phone: 282-8623-7
Shared Meal: Pigs' Feet
11 posted on 05/20/2020 7:54:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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drubs? wnd really going for the young crowd. /s

Contract Tracing is about like the Patriot Act. Some leftist at some point will use it for nefarious purposes just like they did with FISA. IIRC, big tech CEOs were regular visitors to the White House when obama was president.

google(Android) & Apple(iPhone) are pushing a contract tracing app to all phones as an OS update. You would have to opt in of course. Nothing being forced. Until someday when a new OS update turns on the app with no ability to turn it off, per request by a dem wh admin.

After watching dem governors killing off it’s seniors, does anyone doubt that given the chance, they wouldn’t do the same to all conservatives?


12 posted on 05/20/2020 7:55:55 AM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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Yep - bad enough that one can be traced/backtracked by their phones/IPads/Chromebooks/cars, etc., there is no such thing as privacy anymore and we all fell into it under the guise of “convenience”.


13 posted on 05/20/2020 7:57:03 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: rarestia
The most interesting part of this whole issue, from my perspective, is the seemingly convoluted legal aspects of your "personal" electronic information. There was a U.S. Supreme Court case in the last year or two that hinged on a variation of this point. The issue in question related to the need for law enforcement to get a warrant to search mobile phone records that indicated a suspected criminal's location at the time the crime in question was committed.

Remarkably (but not so remarkably, when the details are understood), it was Clarence Thomas who authored an opinion (I believe it was a dissenting opinion in the case) that the police did NOT need a warrant to get the phone records in that case. His reasoning was quite sound: Under the terms of the mobile phone contract for the accused criminal, the phone company retained ownership of all those records and data and were free to use it as they saw fit. In simple terms ... the Fourth Amendment protections against searches and seizures without a warrant do not apply to information that a person has voluntarily given to someone else.

Justice Thomas made it clear that having this kind of information out there with limited protection may not be a good idea. But that's a matter for Congress to determine, not a constitutional matter.

Those of us who are legitimately concerned about the privacy of our records would do well to think hard about just how important all these electronic devices really are in our lives. And if they are, and we are still concerned about the privacy of our records, then perhaps we should be working on methods to obscure this information or even disseminate misleading information through our devices.

14 posted on 05/20/2020 7:57:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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How many so called conservatives are filling out their resumes, to become Corona checkers,on line with their constant criticism or our President and what we are doing to beat this virus?


15 posted on 05/20/2020 8:09:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The CHICOM/PRCNN, controllers of America's Fake news media, CDCNN, WHO, are the Deep Staters!))
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To: circlecity

And, I wouldn’t be lying in that case. I can hardly recall what was for dinner last night. I’m probably not going to keep a log/diary.


16 posted on 05/20/2020 8:14:16 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Pollard

Power off, phone in drawer at house. I didn’t NEED one 20 years ago. I don’t NEED one today.


17 posted on 05/20/2020 8:15:50 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Watched his movie on pbs last night. I’d forgotten how awesome it was when he took biden and metzenbaum and the rest of the lib assclowns on the confirmation panel to the woodshed telling them their attack on him was a high tech lynching worse than he had ever been through. Worse than the kkk or some southern sheriff because the was the ‘wrong’ black man for the job. Great thinker. We need to keep him around.


18 posted on 05/20/2020 8:20:19 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Alberta's Child
... the Fourth Amendment protections against searches and seizures without a warrant do not apply to information that a person has voluntarily given to someone else.

This information hasn't been given voluntarily since the Federal government has made it illegal to encrypt data without them having a key to open it.

It's a two-fold violation; the First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment.

Such unconstitutional searches are no different than having the government go through all your mail, tap all of your phone calls, and follow you around with a camera WITHOUT a warrant.

These same "investigators" who wouldn't think of tapping a phone without a warrant not long ago now argue that they had the right to every bit of phone evidence obtained without a warrant? How many dismissed cases need to be reopened with previously warrant-less evidence?

19 posted on 05/20/2020 8:59:35 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits (The Flugaloo has begun.)
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Texas? Geez. if we’ve lost Texas, we’ve lost the country.

Contact tracing is only good in the beginning when trying to contain the virus from spreading beyond it’s original hot point.

Other than that, it’s just a ploy for nefarious agendas.


20 posted on 05/20/2020 9:07:29 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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