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What the Discussion Over the Ahmaud Arbery Shooting Should Actually Be Focused On
Townhall.com ^ | May 12, 2020 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 05/12/2020 4:21:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: PapaBear3625

I seem to see that word used here as often as I do on DU.


61 posted on 05/12/2020 6:37:29 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: PapaBear3625
And then the race-baiters will get the incident they want, leading into November.

You think this will go to trial by November? I've heard of cases dragging out for years. I knew a guy with a DUI, and it was something like 3 years before the case was finally decided.

62 posted on 05/12/2020 6:37:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The fool got justice, and quickly too. Charging a man with a shotgun is usually a fatal mistake.

Yeah how's that justice working out for the two vigilante wannabe's? No bail, eating jail food for the foreseeable future until their trial. Then facing long terms in jail if convicted. Think they're having second thoughts about their decision right about now?

63 posted on 05/12/2020 6:38:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Labyrinthos
I found the photos that you referenced. The guy in the October photos does not look like Arbery, but the photos are dark and grainy and perhaps it is him.

I do not know if this is true, but I have read from other freepers that in some of those photos from October, there are visible tattoos that match tattoos Arbery is known to have, according to them.

64 posted on 05/12/2020 6:40:02 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Altura Ct.
What’s thats got to do with it? Are we having some sort national discussion on violent black crime?

It appears you want one. Why else bring up a killing totally unrelated to this crime? Unless you're trying to say that people are targeted and killed because of their race and then I might agree that there may be similarities between the two.

65 posted on 05/12/2020 6:41:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Labyrinthos

If I am jogging down the street and two fat rednecks in a pickup truck chase me down and confront me with a shotgun. I am thinking, “If I run they will shoot me in the back and kill me; if I put my hands up and surrender, they will shoot me in the chest and kill me; but if I fight back, then I might survive the situation.”
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Sure, and if I were a Girl Scout selling cookies and two guys with guns confronted me....He was NOT a JOGGER for Pete’s Sake. At this point, after all the evidence that has come out, if you still think this guy was out for a daily jog, you are either working for the Abery family’s lawyers or you exclusively read VOX. Black guys in the rural Deep South do NOT jog (neither do white guys, except the transplants from the Atlanta suburbs). He was wearing CARGO PANTS which would saw your nuts off if you ran miles in them. He had a belt on. He wore his pants 8 inches down his ass. He was NOT a JOGGER!!!


66 posted on 05/12/2020 6:43:37 AM PDT by bort
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Had the dead guy ever been arrested?”

Yes. The deceased was an erstwhile gunman himself.


67 posted on 05/12/2020 6:43:57 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m curious where the hammer came from?

Was he carrying it before he trespassed and possibly committed burglary? Did he leave the house with it (Felony Burglary)? Was the hammer dropped at the scene of the shooting? Was the hammer used as a weapon? That hammer may be a major player in this story. I personally don’t appreciate people running at me with a hammer, that’s an excellent way to get shot.


68 posted on 05/12/2020 6:44:32 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Kaslin

He was wearing shorts and sneakers and he appeared to be jogging. There is a short video and a long video.


69 posted on 05/12/2020 6:44:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Fishtalk
I am not convinced this guy was oh so innocent but he didn’t deserve to be shot and those who shot him should be punished.

When you grab a shotgun and pull it forward, you shoot yourself.

70 posted on 05/12/2020 6:52:12 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Labyrinthos
“If I am jogging down the street and two fat rednecks in a pickup truck chase me down and confront me with a shotgun.”

What about two skinny rednecks? Would that make a difference?

If not, why make a reference to weight at all?

You may have meant no offense. You probably have just been programmed by the media to host stereotypical prejudices.

71 posted on 05/12/2020 6:55:25 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: bort

Well I guess we were wrong. He WAS an avid runner after all.

How about that.


72 posted on 05/12/2020 6:56:51 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: FalloutShelterGirl

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73 posted on 05/12/2020 6:58:05 AM PDT by FalloutShelterGirl (Cool! I found my original screen name!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
He made the worst possible choice.

Look, I am not going to judge because I was not in that situation. He's dead now and 20/20 hindsight is irrelevant.

That still doesn't mitigate the fat bastard's (your words, not mine) liability for grabbing a shotgun and chasing him down the road to make a citizen's arrest. That sounds like Barney Fife on LSD

74 posted on 05/12/2020 6:58:45 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people -Socrates)
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To: DoodleDawg

Political prisoners often have to go through hardships. It’s unfortunate, but that is the nature of this type of game.


75 posted on 05/12/2020 7:02:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Kaslin

Where was the guy’s car? Did he live close by?


76 posted on 05/12/2020 7:05:55 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Had the dead guy ever been arrested?

Yes. And GUESS who the INVESTIGATING DETECTIVE on the case was .

77 posted on 05/12/2020 7:06:00 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Dusty Road
I’m curious where the hammer came from?

As all we are. I remember watching the video the first time. I thought to myself, "Why is this moron taking the camera off the action to point it over to the right?"

It didn't occur to me until later that the driver who was videoing the incident was pointing the camera at the hammer in the road. I'm willing to bet that the driver of the car can testify that Arbery dropped that hammer.

Alternatively that could have just been lying in the road and Arbery happened to walk by it, but that would be an interesting coincidence, wouldn't it?

I personally don’t appreciate people running at me with a hammer, that’s an excellent way to get shot.

I think perhaps he may have dropped the hammer when he saw they had a shotgun. Of course that was stupid if he planned to attack them at that point. The hammer might have actually made him successful. Throwing it at the guy with the shotgun might have disabled him long enough to get the gun away from him.

But we don't know for sure how that hammer got there... yet.

78 posted on 05/12/2020 7:08:09 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Alberta's Child
I don’t know all the facts of this case,

True. Do you want to ?

The older McMichael is a former cop and a retired investigator for the prosecutor’s office ...

True. And guess whose 'case' he had investigated before he was retired. Guess what person he had met face to face, and knew all about that person's criminal activities.

79 posted on 05/12/2020 7:09:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
That still doesn't mitigate the fat bastard's (your words, not mine) liability for grabbing a shotgun and chasing him down the road to make a citizen's arrest.

I don't think they have any liability. What they did was legal. It may have been foolish, but the law allows for it.

I think most of the outrage over this incident is the consequence of people thinking nobody should have the right to attempt to detain a suspected burglar with guns, and especially if he's black.

Had this been a white guy, nobody would give the slightest crap that he got shot trying to get away from people trying to arrest him.

80 posted on 05/12/2020 7:11:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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