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Why Did We Treat Coronavirus So Differently Than Other Epidemics?
Ricochet ^ | May 7, 2020 | Tom Patterson

Posted on 05/09/2020 3:20:12 PM PDT by absalom01

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To: absalom01
Or driving around in alone in your car with the windows rolled up. What’s up with that?

1) Handling a mask (while worn) reduces its effectiveness. (And can contaminate one's hands).

2) Modern cars have self-filtered air, but how many are truly effective or properly maintained?

61 posted on 05/09/2020 6:06:52 PM PDT by Does so ( Ro)
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To: irishjuggler

The the Dem governors getting a taste of executive power didn’t help either. In CT restaurants may reopen outdoor seating May 20, but a 50% capacity and 6 ft apart while requiring patrons to wear a mask when entering or using the bathroom for safety but it apparent poses no risk to eat with your friends and not wear one.


62 posted on 05/09/2020 6:51:53 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Grampa Dave

Exactly.


63 posted on 05/09/2020 6:53:14 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Artcore
The death rate is nowhere near 7%!

There are 4,020,878 cases of Covid-19 worldwide. A total of 279,007 people have died. Basic math: 279,007/4,020,878*100=6.94%. On some days, the death rate is over 7%, other days it's lower, so for simplicity, I say 7%.

Number one, a lot of people are being shown to have this antibody. The people who have the antibody must be added to the total number of cases, and this in turn lowers the death rate percentage!

No. There is no evidence that the antibody tests can distinguish between coronavirus antibodies, and they have a large false positive rate. Furthermore, this is cold season. Since a lot of people have had colds caused by coronaviruses this winter, they have antibodies to those coronaviruses. It is extremely likely that all of the positive antibody tests were showing simply that those people had colds.

Number two, large numbers of people were recorded as dying from COVID-19 who did NOT! Others did not die of COVID outright, but had other serious illnesses!

This is one of the worst pieces of misinformation out there. Covid-19 is especially dangerous for elderly people (especially those over age 40), and for obese people, diabetics, those who have heart disease and other cardiovascular problems, etc. By claiming that someone who died of Covid-19 really died of diabetes, you are both dismissing the victim and seriously downplaying the disease. The fact that these people are dying when they get Covid-19 is not a mere coincidence--it is Covid-19 killing them.

I’m sure you also believed Fauci and Birx when they assured us we were going to lose 2.2 million Americans to this bug...right?

You have to understand modeling. When a scientist creates models, they generate them based on certain parameters. We know how respiratory diseases spread. We know how many people die when they catch Covid-19. The unknown here is how many people will be exposed, and that is highly dependent on behavior. If we do nothing to stop its spread, how many people will end up becoming infected? Can we stop its spread? What if we decrease the rate of spread by half? Etc. If nothing is done to contain the spread of Covid-19, a lot of people will get sick. If half of the people of the US get sick, then more than 8 million will die. That is a simple numerical calculation. What I also know, because I do the calculations myself, is that the current rate of spread is slower now than it was for the first few months of the pandemic, and the thing that changed was that social distancing policies were enacted.

64 posted on 05/09/2020 6:57:29 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: absalom01

It’s an election year?


65 posted on 05/09/2020 7:42:52 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: absalom01
Why Did We Treat Coronavirus So Differently Than Other Epidemics?

Ask Alinskey and the DNC!

66 posted on 05/09/2020 8:18:53 PM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Don Corleone

In January and February, the media and the Dems (there I go repeating myself again) were trying to run the “Katrina” playbook because they, and almost everyone else, didn’t understand the gravity of the situation.

The initial Federal response of ‘15 days to slow the spread” wasn’t, IHMO, crazy. The TV images out of Italy created a political momentum that not even Trump could overcome. But now, the goal posts have been moved. It’s not “flatten the curve” or “slow the spread”, it’s “we must contain the virus.

That’s impossible. Time to try something different.


67 posted on 05/09/2020 8:32:20 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
It’s going to take a long time for all these neuroses to pass.

Unfortunately, I see the same thing occurring. "Snowflakes" everywhere you turn.

It's the manifestation in our society of the "politically correct" era as applied to illness.

My concern is that it MAY NOT go away and that it's only beginning.

Hope I'm wrong about that!

68 posted on 05/09/2020 11:52:37 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: exDemMom
1) Covid-19 has a death rate of 7%.

Don't know WHERE you got that figure but the death rate is far, far less than that!

69 posted on 05/10/2020 12:01:54 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: joma89
Because our society has been taken over by all of the Karens out there.

on't forget the Alices that helped.

70 posted on 05/10/2020 3:36:14 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: VideoDoctor
Don't know WHERE you got that figure but the death rate is far, far less than that!

This is the death rate that I calculate on a daily basis from actual case numbers and death numbers.

Today:
Cases-4041520
Deaths-279593
Death rate is deaths divided by cases times 100 (to make a percent). So:

279,593 / 4,041,520 x 100 = 6.918% death rate.

Since it has been bouncing around the 7% number (some days it is higher than 7%), I just round off and say 7%.

Do not believe the stories that Covid-19 has already been circulating widely and most people have already had it. There is NO data to support those stories. Those stories are extremely dangerous, because they lead people to believe that there is nothing to worry about when the reality is that if we cannot control the spread of Covid-19, it WILL kill millions.

71 posted on 05/10/2020 5:35:58 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: exDemMom
There is NO data to support those stories. Those stories are extremely dangerous, because they lead people to believe that there is nothing to worry about when the reality is that if we cannot control the spread of Covid-19, it WILL kill millions.

Once again your MATH is out of wack.

Using John Hopkins Univ Hospital website... https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

This is what I show as cases... 4,079,388 - That's globally.

Remember there are 7.7 BILLION people on the planet.

That would mean as far as planet population we have an INFECTION RATE of 0.05% that's 5 tenths of 1%.

That would make the death rate 0.0036 per planet's population.

Infection rate, or cases, is highly misleading since 30 or 40% of the population of the planet could be considered asymptomatic because they've never been tested.

As far as the U.S. is concerned we have 1,321,233 out of a population of 330,000,000 million people... that's an infection rate of 0.40%

The death rate... 79,058 deaths out of a population of 330 million people is a death rate of 0.02% - 2 tenths of 1%.

If you do NOT agree with me then you may be just having your own personal "Fun with Numbers.".

72 posted on 05/10/2020 1:40:23 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor

It is not the death rate as a function of the whole population that is pertinent when speaking of the deadliness of a disease, but the death rate as a function of those who get sick that is relevant. Seven percent of those who contract Covid-19 die.

While the number of people infected is still low—0.39% of the people in the US have caught Covid-19—it is a communicable disease that spreads directly from human to human. The spread occurs through an exponential function, meaning that if we do nothing to stop its spread, it *will* eventually infect a majority of the population. And this is why countries all over the world are taking it very seriously and implementing measures to stop its spread.

If you get a cancerous spot on your arm, do you do nothing about it, because that tiny spot only represents 0.000386% of your total body mass? Or do you recognize that if you do nothing, that spot will grow and spread until eventually cancer is growing all over your body, so you have it removed?

A communicable infectious disease is much the same way. It is still small in that it has not affected the majority of the population. But if we do nothing to stop it, it will keep spreading. And it kills 7% of those who get it.


73 posted on 05/10/2020 2:22:47 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: absalom01
 
 
You're not paranoid or anything close to it. Just look at the keywords on any given thread. Disparaging and snarky on some, other times every thread. That nonsense used to not be tolerated. There is definitely a stealthy contingent of trolls on FR, but the Mods are missing in action.
 
 

74 posted on 05/14/2020 8:03:35 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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