Posted on 05/04/2020 9:01:38 PM PDT by Barnacle
Most of us have been in lockdown for about six weeks. The objective was to flatten the curve and reduce the total number of victims of COVID-19. Well, the curve has been flattened indeed, but how is it six-weeks later there are 25,375 new cases in a single day?
With all the laws and policies implemented to knock out this virus, I expected we’d be on the last leg of the downward curve by now. But, instead of a peak and decline, we’ve had three peaks and shallow valleys between them.
If people are staying at home, practicing social distancing, wearing masks in public, washing their hands and sanitizing everything in sight, how is it that COVID-19 continues to be transmitted from person to person?
A couple possibilities that occurred to me are that: 1) People flouting the laws, or 2) The virus is phenomenally virulent beyond anything ever seen before ( bio-weapon).
I was fully on board with the lockdown orders when they were issued. It was what we needed to do to beat this. However, we are at the point that the cure is becoming worse than the disease. In addition to what this virus has done to people directly, what about the collateral damage, such as long-term damage to our economy? For instance, consider the first two trillion dollar bail-out. Who pays for it? If you are among the approximate one-hundred-million US tax payers, you do. The federal government just signed your name to a $20,000 loan. Don’t think so? Do the math.
It would be particularly interesting to hear the stories of COVID-19 cases that you’ve heard of in the last couple weeks and theories of how they were exposed.
Should we just let this thing take an inevitable course, or should we double-down on lock-down?
I don’t understand fear so great it defies reason. I just don’t get it.
Do you not realize that our federal and state Constitutions trump all illegal laws? The quarantine laws you mention are for isolating the sick - not the healthy. When everybody is under ‘quarantine’, it’s called martial law.
I'm in the Bay Area of freakin' California, and I can tell you most people here are in fact taking precautions. Even amongst friends, we keep our distance, but we are ready for cook-outs/campfires/etc while not being stupid.
Is it possible there is a third path? Or just Jeb! backers and your opinion to choose from?
You really think Trump supporters are going to vote for Biden because they are unhappy with his actions on the virus? I know liberals say Trump has mismanaged things, but Trump supporters do not.
A week ago, the predicted likely death total by Aug 4, 2020 was 68,840. The total deaths have already exceeded 75,000 and the revised projections are for 134,475 by Aug 4.
Maybe, it’s time to face reality; and start acting responsibly, and with due regard for the safety of others.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
Biggest CON since Lenin, Hitler and Mao, but we’re getting there.
Its called hysteria and it is NEVER GOOD.
Its called hysteria and it is NEVER GOOD.
Ditto that.
You nailed it.
32 mil unemployed. Throw in a spouse and a kid and you’re talking 100 mil people, one third of the country have had their lives destroyed. I think it will get worse in the coming months. ...I knew I should have taken that government job when I had the chance.
I am a healthcare worker genius.
No, you are not a healthcare worker. No healthcare worker would talk like you. Nice try.
“I think the common-sense approach is:
1. Below age 60 or 65 with no health problems — let ‘er rip!
2. Over age 60 or 65 and beset with high BP, diabetes, liver or kidney disease, etc., try to continue staying at home or limiting your exposure to groups of people. But it is your option and purely voluntary.”
Yes, and people in category 2) vote while those in 1) not so often.
Just because you test positive doesn’t mean you are sick with the disease!
Probably not — but, it would only take a few percent of Independents to switch from Trump to Biden to cost the election. And, yes, I really think that this election will largely be a referendum on Trump’s handling of this crisis.
Trump has done a superb job so far — but, that will mean nothing if the death toll is not reined in. It’s time to get real about this — act responsibly, with due regard for the safety of others.
If that was true, Hitlery would be living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
The pandemic is running its natural course. A bit over a week ago, there were routinely 30,000 or more daily cases. The most recent daily total represents a daily growth rate of just over 2%. The daily growth rate has been declining since mid March (around 3/19 was the peak), when it was over 45%. The rate of growth is the important factor. It has dropped and continues to do so.
If you remember, we had wild predictions early on because the number of new cases was doubling every 2-3 days. There were people who know just enough math to be dangerous predicting over 30 million total cases by now because of that growth rate. In reality this pandemic is following a logistic growth curve, not an exponential one. This resembles exponential growth early on, but the growth rate slows over time to a linear growth rate like we now see.
Unlike exponential growth, linear growth is much less concerning. Exponential growth is characterized by a constant doubling time. If we continue at 2% growth, for instance that would imply a doubling time of 35 days. On the other hand if we continue with 25,000 infections per day, the time to double once is 48 days. The next doubling would take 96 days. The time for each new doubling would be twice the previous one (192, 384, etc.) This is a huge difference: in 1 year at 2% exponential growth we’d have 1000x the number of cases we now have (obviously impossible since that would be 1.2 billion, or about 4x the population of the US). At 25000 cases per day we’d have about 10.3 million total cases. Since we seem to have gone from exponential to linear growth, that would be the indicator that it’s time to get back to work and reopen the country.
All nonsense. The numbers are baked/conflated. This virus strain is no more deadly than influenza and the regular flu season mortality.
The state quarantines, lock-downs, the wrecking-ball put to the economies of each state and the social distancing was a result of media peddling panic that fueled this alarmist scam.
Along with flawed/outrageous infection/mortality models used by both the CDC & WHO to declare a pandemic with more of the intentions to influence, or con, the world into wrecking it’s economy. The same idiots used these models to deliberately contrive “what-if” postulations for possible outcomes which called for 2-2.5 million COVID-19 deaths in the US alone a month ago! Since revised to be closer to 60k!
Wearing masks, 6-ft apart, staying at home and getting your food at a drive-up window WILL NOT stop COVID-19 from running its course whether its 6 weeks or 6 months. The results will be the same.
Why doesn’t government shut down car manufacturing until enough lives are saved! Shut down cigarette & alcohol manufacture, abortion clinics, have AOC outlaw the flu-season... police should rabidly enforce laws against murder and suicide, prohibit high risk activities/jobs and taking selfies on the edge of 300ft cliffs! Yeah, that’ll show the voters government cares. Yes, government must save our lives!
We are not children. Life is full of risks/death caused by choices/movement in a free society. We risk death every day from arbitrary contagion exposure to pathogens, from a myriad of diseases/pathogens/accidents, and from God to name a few. Hiding from a virus and imposing draconian government controls on social freedoms/movement won’t make it go away or keep you from the chance of eventually might kill you.
The motivation behind the propaganda driving the fears of COVID-19 is purely political and for power.
Time to get out from under the blanket, return to normalcy and move on from this 3.0 attempt to take out Trump in November.
They are finding more Cov-19 dead bodies too! They say were not counted before.. Just like the missed votes in a close democratic state.. That were just found.
We’re being had. The hospital in NJ where I work has seen a decrease in Covid cases over the last three weeks.
You assume the numbers aren’t being inflated to keep things shut down.
That would be the first reason I would think of. Would also explain why most people don’t know anyone who has it.
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