From: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/141/6/e20172426.full.pdf
Posted on 05/04/2020 1:56:05 PM PDT by fishtank
Student Suicides Peak When School Is In Session
May. 4, 2020
Dr. Jay L. Wile
Suicides among children increase when they are in school. One factor might be the peer group to which school exposes students, which can be incredibly cruel. (image from stockunlimited.com)
In response to a Harvard Law Professor’s evidence-free assertion that there should be a presumptive ban on homeschooling, Ideological Diversity (a student group at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government) hosted an online conference entitled “The Disinformation Campaign Against Homeschooling.” You can watch it here. I attended the conference, and it lived up to the student organization’s name. There were seven speakers, and they all come from very different ideological perspectives. There was one Evangelical Christian, for example, while two of the other speakers specifically noted that they are not religious in any way. Some were conservative, while others were liberal. One speaker even noted that while he agreed with the other speakers when it comes to homeschooling, he strongly disagreed with them on many other matters.
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From: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/141/6/e20172426.full.pdf
Since I had never heard this before, I decided to look into it, and several studies confirm Dr. Gray’s statement. One of the more disturbing studies I found was published three years ago. It looked at hospitalization in children’s hospitals for thoughts of suicide (SI – suicide ideation) or suicide attempts (SA). It covered 2008-2015, and the results are very clear. Consider, for example, Figure 2 from the study:
From Dr. Wile:
“Since I had never heard this before, I decided to look into it, and several studies confirm Dr. Gray’s statement. One of the more disturbing studies I found was published three years ago. It looked at hospitalization in children’s hospitals for thoughts of suicide (SI – suicide ideation) or suicide attempts (SA). It covered 2008-2015, and the results are very clear. Consider, for example, Figure 2 from the study:”
Given the present state of publik skoolz, is this surprising?
School is bad.
Education is good. But Education has nothing to do with school.
BTW — it is traditional to criticize homeschooling because kids miss out of the “socialization”. Well, the reason kids kill themselves when school is in session? It’s the “socialization”.
Sometimes it’s pressure. Happens a lot to those who go to public schools in the Silicon Valley area. Some of the better public school systems in the country (due to the money there). Particularly with Asian kids whose parents weren’t born in the US. Ending up with a B+ for a semester grade in any course can be a trigger to throw one’s self in front of an Amtrak train.
One wonders if it isnt perhaps the communist indoctrination from the teachers that is making kids suicidal
Agree. Despite my constant negative comments on public schools, ours is quite good. However, this is a rather highly educated neighborhood (real education, not marshmallow stuff) and consequently, it’s very Republican.
However, as with all schools, the low brow NEA is always tying to take bodacious Obamas on our curricula.
Go figure.
Im sure its more as a result of bullying than pressure, maybe in Asain countries.
With the Left screaming “We’re all gonna die...” 24/7/365, no
wonder.
The left thinks, once it has won, it can get sloppy. But they are now trying to close the barn door after the horse escaped, because all those home schoolers now in college are fully equipped to defend themselves.
I wonder:
Given social distancing and suicide rates, how will the teachers unions and advocates of mass assembly line public education argue this?
Nope. It was rotten when I was there in the ‘80s. I’d have to hate my kids with a burning passion to send them to a public school.
It will be interesting to wait and see how many kids drop
out of the government school systems after this break.
They’ll do what they always do. Demand a raise and more benefits for themselves.
I think you nailed it, FRiend.
When I look back on my school days, 50 years ago, my most vivid memories are still being tormented by certain of my classmates.
Eventually, I learned to fight back. A big growth spurt around 13-14 didn’t hurt either.
So much for “socialization.” I never learned how to bully and backstab. I had such a deprived childhood//sarc.
One problem with public schools is that the higher the grade, the larger the school in most locations. I recall our family’s elementary schools as being very nurturing environments where almost every kid knew every other kid and every teacher, so there were always allies and supporters. But when they got bused to a “regional” middle school and thrown in with an additional 70% strangers, the bullying was widespread. And the high school was the size of many small towns — it took seven minutes to walk from one end of the building to the cafeteria on the other end, and the lunch period was only 20 minutes. Major stress.
Drill down into the video. Home-schoolers are MORE socialized, but not in a peer-age-ghetto according to the “scientific management” factory model of Frederick Winslow Taylor. They relate to their communities better, across all age spans—precisely where they can learn what their alientated peers can not teach them, how to live.
The society in schools resembles that in prisons. No adult would put up with the kind of bullying and abuse that kids take in school. An adult at a job would file a complaint or call the cops if he were treated that way.
When it’s illegal to punish/remove the worst elements, it becomes a cesspool that cannot be a good environment ...
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