Posted on 05/04/2020 9:25:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
The CEO of Gilead Sciences, the company that makes the promising drug remdesivir, says it will be available to treat COVID-19 patients as early as this week after receiving approval from the FDA.
The drug showed promising results in a study of more than 1,000 people around the world and has been touted as one of the first steps in reopening the economy.
Scientists found that patients who were given it recovered 31 percent faster than those who did not and that the mortality rate among recipients was around three percent lower; it was 8 percent in the drug recipients and 11.6 percent in placebo patients.
In an interview with Face The Nation on CBS on Sunday, Gilead CEO Dan O'Day said the company had donated its entire supply of the drug to the government to roll out to hospitals across the US and that it will also send some overseas.
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Thalessemia isn’t rare in certain areas.
I have it. And there is no known Mediterrean or Asian or Middle Eastern Ancestry in the side of my family that gave it to me.
It isn’t rare in Bangladesh.
Thalessemia isn’t rare in Italy. And they are a group of people that needed a solution.
I would venture to say if I went to an ER with Covid 19 they wouldnt have a clue whether I should get the drug or not.
I am not going to go search for them.
But I am giving you a real live class of people right here that may not be able to take Trump’s drug..and it is not a rare condition among certain classes of people.
Expound on why Thalessemia B patients should or should not take that malaria drug.
btw, the same concerns might go for sickle cell trait carriers or those that have the disease since it evolved due to malaria.
There seems to be a lot of people who really really don’t want HCQ/Z-Pack/Zinc to work. #RESIST
Not following how I came to be included in your post.
HCQ combination therapy is administered inpatient and outpatient. No IV necessary. Many hospitalized taking HCQ combo treatment have recovered very well, too many to declare as anecdotal conicidences.
HCQ combo results of professional well-designed observational studies are published and available and more are to be published any day now for patient panels both in and out of hospitals. Further, there are FDA approved clinical trials for HCQ combo Txs starting now.
The Gates-Soros forces versus the worldwide growing HCQ combination treatments is a political and propaganda war. It is relatively easy to see who the real villains are. MDs administering HCQ combination Tx are certainly aware now who the villains are.
Keep in mind the easy analogy to understand is that COVID-19 is like a fire, if caught early will result in little damage, but if caught after it has been raging, there is very little chance of rescue and even if survival is achieved, the damage is extensive and permanent.
People rushing to hospitals because they cannot breathe have taken HCQ combination treatment and recovered within hours.
But people with COVID-19 that are hospitalized with severe comorbidities do not recover so easily but they often do with HCQ therapy although their other conditions may keep them in the hospital.
Elderly in senior centers often have conditions they are dying from. If such elderly contract COVID-19, they are observed to go down quickly. HCQ therapy in such settings are reported to have saved afflicted eldering in such settings.
39 elderly Texans successfully complete hydroxychloroquine treatment for COVID-19, doctor says
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-elderly-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-treatment-texas-city/287-7383185c-940c-4cb2-82ea-c4a5ffad3ffb
“Fifty-six residents at this senior facility in Galveston County contracted the novel coronavirus. Dr. Robin Armstrong said 39 of them gave him permission to treat them with hydroxychloroquine pills.”
100% success rate which conforms with 90%, 95% results in larger groups in the US, France, Brazil, Israel, India and others growing worldwide.
here a a little info on thalessemia and trump’s drug but it focuses on tranfusion dependent which is the rarer form of thalessemia
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ajh.25840
This article has been accepted for publication and undergone full peer review but has not been through the copyediting, typesetting, pagination and proofreading process which may lead to differences between this version and the Version of Record. Please cite this article as doi: 10.1002/ajh.25840 SARS-CoV-2 infection in beta thalassemia: preliminary data from the Italian experience.
It’s been around for awhile and tried against other infectious agents before SARS-COV-2 arrived on the scene.
It’s never been successful against anything other than limited success reported in petri dishes.
It is rare inside the USA.
You still haven’t answered the question of who the ‘frontline’ doctors are.
this is a very interesting statement..
” Neither death nor severe SARS or signs of cytokines storm, were observed in these 11 subjects. which may be surprising, taking into account the mean age and the presence of severe comorbidities”
Covid is a world wide disease.And there are a lot of Italians in this country..especially in NY. Sickle cell trait and disease are also seen in this country
So I guess YOU dont know the answer as to whether a certain class of people should not take Trumps malaria drug.
And I have told you that i am not going to go do a search on that site.
You can do it.
Btw, there is a verified infectious disease expert there
https://eurobloodnet.eu/covid/covid-19-information/
It is not real comforting to see Drs here who say Gilead drug is no good but Trump’s drug can be given to everyone...but when pressed..oops..well maybe not..but that blood disorder is rare in the US anyway so who cares...
LOLOLOLOL
Tell that to the Italians who have Thalessemia in the US.
I just hope I can stay away from Wuhan flu long enough for Drs and drug companies to get their act together.
Ok so you are not backing up your declarations.
Therefore, your information is unsupported and rendered invalid.
As for your other deflections and diversions, the disorder of Thalassemia is RARE inside the USA, that is an easily veriable fact.
Sickle cell originates from malaria ridden Africa and of course is carried genetically. It is a recessive genetic condition.
Those having both recessive genes for sickle cell die or remain extremely sick as the blood is unable to transport oxygen.
Those that are heterozygous for the sickle cell trait survive and have grown among malaria ridden regions as a result of natural selection. Yet they carry the recessive gene.
> “So I guess YOU dont know the answer as to whether a certain class of people should not take Trumps malaria drug.”
You just outed yourself. It is not “Trump’s malaria drug”.
Only the fake and compromised corrupt news media and their minion bots on social media refer to HCQ therapy as “Trump’s malaria drug”.
HCQ therapy is a treatment that preceded the President announcing it Positive results stemming from the treatment were reported to him and he had his top military MDs verify its results reporting back to him the reports were true, He announced it and took flak from the Gates-Soros Axis and their Democrat-controlled fake news.
You have taken a simple request for doctors touting remdesivir and have a created obfuscation and deflection including name-calling and diversions to Trump.
All reading can see your true colors now.
You didnt answer the question
Many people in the US have thalessemia
That is a fact
I am one of them.
I am fortunate in that both of my parents didnt care the gene so there was no risk of the kind that needs a transfusion
BUT
I most definitely am seriously affected by this disorder
And since COvid 19 and oxidative stress go hand and hand I am more at risk for crashing
SO once again...
is the drug you are touting that is safe for EVERYONE ..safe for people that already have a hemoglobin disorder that evolved due to malaria.such as Sickle cell and thalessemia
YES OR NO
...underwhelming results...
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1/3—1/3—1/3
essentially, chance.
Thank you for the permission. You are correct I did begin the with a little snark and I apologize. Having said that there is much more evidence that HCQ works than there is that Fauci's stuff does, because patients treated before they are ultra critical seem to recover. Now we have a state that is initiating a statewide trial, hopefully they don't wait until the poor soles are on a ventilator.
Posts 27 and 61, I believe.
> “Many people in the US have thalessemia”
I answered your question. ‘Many’ is not defined against a population of more than 335 million.
It is a VERIABLE FACT that thalassemia is RARE inside the USA. RARE means a very very small percentage.
Argue with the NIH about it being rare:
https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/7756/thalassemia
Yes I did answer that remdesivir is approved for emergency COVID-19 treatment in thalassemia but Gilead is not interested, why?
Because Gilead is not interested in developing orphan drugs, why?
There’s no money in it.
Further, there is no publishable evidence that remdesivir can do anything for COVID-19 patients with thalassemia.
The standard of care for thalassemia according to NIH is as follows:
Blood transfusion
Bone marrow
transplantation
Cholecystectomy
Sickle Cell and the trait is also defined as Rare but many people have it.
And apparently you dont know much about thalessemia.
I have it.
I dont need any of the things you listed
BUT IT SERIOUSLY AFFECTS ME.
And puts me at risk if I get Covid 19
So ONE MORE TIME
Is Trump’s malaria drug SAFE for those that have blood disorders that are thought to have evolved from Malaria.
YES OR NO
I, and many others, are desparate to find that out because we know..that MANY ER Drs are going to be clueless when it comes to thalassemia.
Almost every Dr I have been to throughout my life has idiotically told me to take iron after seeing me blood tests...the most recent one one said...after I reminded them that I had thalassemia..Oh well eat iron rich vegetables.
SO just answer the question. You demanded from someone here to tell you the class of people that couldnt take Trump’s drug.
I am asking you to be SPECIFIC..IS IT SAFE for Sickle Cell and Thalessemia disorders.
If you can’t answer that question in the affirmative...then you have the answer to the question you asked that poster.
At $1000 per treatment, I’ll wait for my Hydroxy! Big difference @ $20.00 for full treatment and it won’t kill my liver! Darn few side effects!
and btw, the Dr who diagnosed me with thalessemia back in the 80s told me very clearly not to take drugs for malaria if I traveled to countries where I was at risk...but said I should always recheck because things evolve.
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