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How high will it go? As Covid-19 death toll in U.S. blows past 60,000, there are no easy answers
STAT ^ | April 30, 2020 | SHARON BEGLEY and HYACINTH EMPINADO

Posted on 05/02/2020 10:13:10 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: MinorityRepublican
Let’s see. We are averaging 30,000 new cases per day with 2,000 deaths. We will get over 100,000 dead by Memorial Day.

You can always hope.

Say!...let us know when you go.

We'll drop by your plot for a word.

61 posted on 05/02/2020 11:11:27 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: MinorityRepublican

First two weeks to spread the curve. Now six weeks later are we really better off? You have to ask yourself where are the new cases coming from? Just from the “essential” workers? No way the epidemic is being sustained from just them. It does bet the question about whether shelter in place really is effective. I wish they would take 10 random new cases and qualify how it is that they became infected. What did they do wrong? Are all new cases of people who aren’t following guidelines? What a conundrum.


62 posted on 05/02/2020 11:11:58 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It is time for more than one denomination of "Political Correctness".)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s just it. we went into this in an effort to slow it all down. Now we just have to go through it.

People thinking we are going to avoid it are wrong, avoiding it was never the real plan.


63 posted on 05/02/2020 11:14:55 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Freedom from our enemies within)
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To: MinorityRepublican

When the models are adjusted down enough and the death count inflated enough to meet each other with a few thousand bodies piled on top for “I told you so” political rear end Covering, only then will the heart attack and other death rates normalize.


64 posted on 05/02/2020 11:15:16 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It doesn’t matter

It will be less than the two million Fauci claimed if we didn’t destroy the economy

Yes it’s a terrible nasty virus IF you get a severe case. If you co morbidities you’ll have a tough time. If you’re young and healthy and get a severe case you could experience a debating often fatal cytokine storm

So what. It’s an F’ing virus. It will run its course. People want zero risk. Nothing in life has a zero risk

It’s all Panic Porn


65 posted on 05/02/2020 11:15:56 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MinorityRepublican

You are wrong

This is a winter virus. It’ll be gone by mid May. I have said so from the start. You might get some additional cases and deaths until June one. Then nothing

Will it come back in the fall??? Who knows??? SARS waited ten years before returning


66 posted on 05/02/2020 11:18:39 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
That's an interesting chart, but is shows up nowhere at that link. Where did you get it?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-deaths.html

P.S. Citizen Free Press is notoriously inaccurate.

67 posted on 05/02/2020 11:19:41 AM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Religion and Politics
What a conundrum

more like what a ...


68 posted on 05/02/2020 11:20:55 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Weeks 1-15 Number of Deaths 2019 865,181
Number of Deaths 2020 819,659

Through April we totalled 40,000 covid deaths but including those we had fewer total deaths this year.


69 posted on 05/02/2020 11:21:54 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hi.

Imho protect the elderly, those with co-morbidity, quarantine the sick and put Purell everywhere.

Play ball!

Red Soxs at NY.

5.56mm


70 posted on 05/02/2020 11:22:18 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t trust the numbers due to the $$CASH$$ handout from Santa Fed for Beer Flu “cases”. I’d like to see Trump give an executive order that ONLY cases confirmed by a test (can be before or after death) will be paid. Cremated the remains to hide the BS? Too bad, so sad. No money.


71 posted on 05/02/2020 11:22:31 AM PDT by Mr. Rabbit
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To: Nifster

Agreed.


72 posted on 05/02/2020 11:24:14 AM PDT by AFB-XYZ
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To: CIB-173RDABN

In New Jersey, deaths in April 2020 have been running about double April 2019. This is real.


73 posted on 05/02/2020 11:27:12 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: MinorityRepublican

People are going to die from the virus, that doesn’t justify destroying the economy and ignoring the Constitution.


74 posted on 05/02/2020 11:35:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: DoodleBob

Friends of a co-worker owned a restaurant in Washington state. A few weeks after they laid of all of their employees and saw NO END insight, they committed suicide.
Trump said that would happen the longer it drug on.

I think its a serious illness for some. Destroying lives, livelihoods and retirements is just not the answer.

Now we have the liberals convening a committee to investigate Trump for his handling of this. The world has gone mad.


75 posted on 05/02/2020 11:38:53 AM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It will go as high as they need to lie about it to get what they want: More money and your obedience to their dictatorship control: Communism by any other name.


76 posted on 05/02/2020 11:41:52 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

As long as they keep counting every death as CV it will reach whatever count for they want it to.


77 posted on 05/02/2020 11:42:00 AM PDT by carikadon (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: gas_dr

Just curious.

What percentage of Coronavirus deaths are probably not due to the virus. The reported U.S. death rate has basically flatlined for 3 weeks so if the actual CV death rate is falling the padding must be ramping up.


78 posted on 05/02/2020 11:43:48 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: Skywise

One of the best kept secrets around is BHT short for butylated hydroxy toluene.

It has been around for the better part of thirty years or more, has been approved as a food additive by the FDA as safe for human consumption in small quantities and using common sense. Without going into all the details which would fill many pages some of the benefits are difficult to ignore even so pharmaceutical as well as the medical profession does their best to do so. As a prophylactic it would serve its purpose very well until the right vaccine comes along, without any undesirable side effects, besides being inexpensive and is safer than alcohol consumption, use of tobacco or many other unhealthy eating habits.

Some of the reasons are that that there is no money to be made by pharmaceutical companies as patents related to BHT ran out long time ago and in order to have it approved for medical application it would require an immeasurable amounts of human tests with expenditures in the millions of Dollars which most likely will never be recovered.

On the other hand many doctors may know about it but will refrain from suggesting it as recommending anything which is not approved by the FDA would leave them wide open to lawsuits, as it is pretty well known that one of the American dreams is, to fall on your neighbors property and then sue them for what ever they can get.

Over the years enough information about BHT has surfaced that if used in small quantities to achieve a particular result, such as from 100 mg to about 1g (one gram or 1000mg) and in most cases 250mg to 450mg may do a nice job for some of the things suggested, it may be less harmful than an equivalent amount of Aspirins. Again do your own research and use common sense which appears to be in short supply these days.

Even so, if you still apprehensive or hesitant use it only when one of those nasty viruses appears on the scene and use it as a prophylactic in a small quantity perhaps 200 mg and once the danger subside stop taking it. The catch is that in order to do its job BHT works better before you get sick, as BHT will NOT REPAIR ANY DAMAGE which may already have been done by an infectious disease such as the corona virus. Even so if taken afterwards BHT will still continue to disable lipid covered viruses, but to repair any damage already caused may require different medications.

So why to take BHT on the firs place? It has been long known that BHT will remove the lipid layer or cover from LIPID COVERED viruses and the coronavirus happens to be just such a virus and by doing so will prevent such a virus from attaching itself and do its dirty work.
The Principal Benefits of BHT

In order of importance, supplementing with BHT can help with:
Reduce and prevent viral infections such as herpes, thus terminating their outbreaks. Also BHT is effective against many different human and animal viruses including CMV (cytomegalovirus),9 pseudorabies,10 genital herpes,11HIV,12 and some strains of influenza.13 A few of the viruses that have a lipid envelope and may be treated by BHT include herpes simplex I, herpes simplex II, herpes zoster, CMV, West Nile virus, HIV virus, influenza virus, hepatitis B and C viruses, avian flu influenza virus and the SARS virus. However, BHT has not been clinically tested to treat these infections.

The CORONAVIRUS is also a lipid covered virus and BHT affects the lipid covering and in turn prevents the virus from attaching itself and do its damage. Now keep in mind that very few things in life are perfect and this holds true for vaccines as well. So when everything comes down to being cut and dried, do you prefer risking being infected with a nasty virus with all kinds of unpredictable side effects or take a chance with some substance which overall has a very good safety record.

Besides most viruses will mutate over time, and by the time someone may come up with the proper vaccine it may no longer match the virus which is currently making its round. But BHT doesn’t care if such a virus mutates or not. As long as such a virus has a lipid coating it will remove it AND DISABLE SUCH A VIRUS. And it is available at Amazon....make your own case. I have been using it off and on for over thirty years whenever some nasty viruses (lipid coated ones that is, not all of them are) were on the lose and so far it worked. Better than chewing my fingernails hoping not to catch a “BUG”


79 posted on 05/02/2020 11:52:38 AM PDT by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If you believe these numbers, you just might be a STUPID Liberal


80 posted on 05/02/2020 11:56:00 AM PDT by afchief
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