Posted on 04/11/2020 6:45:40 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
Dr. Ben Carson says there is not enough attention being paid to the “number of people who have recovered” from coronavirus, noting that the number “is going to be about 98 percent of all the people who get it.”
Carson, a pediatric neurosurgeon who serves as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), also said the one-quarter to fully one-half of all people who will get SARS-CoV-2 will show no symptoms at all.
“You probably do know someone that has it, you may have it, who knows?” Carson told Fox News host Martha MacCallum on Thursday. “But people have been terrified because we’ve talked about the bad.”
SARS stands for “Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.” This new virus is an off-shoot of that one, which emerged in 2003 — less deadly but more infection. In that 2003 outbreak, The World Health Organization (WHO) said the fatality rate for SARS was 14% to 15%. The agency estimated the fatality rate for people older than 64 years to be more than 50%
“When we see that bell-shaped curve — and we’ve seen it come down rather steeply in some other countries — when that happens [and] we haven’t seen it go back up, that’s what we are looking for here,” he said. “That already seems to be starting.”
“Obviously, we don’t want to [resume economic activity] too early. We will wait for a couple of weeks and see if that continues down and then we also need to make sure that we have appropriate testing,” he said, adding “We can’t operate out of hysteria. When people are hysterical they don’t do logical things.”
Currently, 2% of the people who test positive for the virus are dying - you can only get a test if you are sick in most places. So this is a percentage of sick people, not a percentage of the total population.
Chuckle!
I thought you'd come up with that.
Read this:
Professor Didier Raoult Releases the Results of a New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients
CovidExit.com ^ | 04/10/2020
Posted on 4/11/2020, 2:05:33 AM by SeekAndFind
The new study, of which the abstract was released today, was performed at IHU Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, France. A cohort of 1061 COVID-19 patients, treated for at least 3 days with the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) combination and a follow-up of at least 9 days was investigated.
Key findings are:
No cardiac toxicity was observed.
A good clinical outcome and virological cure was obtained in 973 patients within 10 days (91.7%).
A poor outcome was observed for 46 patients (4.3%); 10 were transferred to intensive care units, 5 patients died (0.47%) (74-95 years old) and 31 required 10 days of hospitalization or more.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3833916/posts
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Death rate from the scientific study on real patients of 1,000 (not fake models) , from the world reknown Professor Didier Raoult of France and one of the world's top experts in treating coronavirus patients eight now.
Over 91% recovery from a 1,061 patient sample.
But this is the salient point, death rate was only 0.47% andthey were all very old, aged 74 -95
Th others are still undergoing intensive care etc.
The fact that someone hasn't recovered yet, doesn't mean they are dead. This disease has only been around a couple of months. Some people get treated for cancer for years before recovering.
Not recovered yet does NOT equal dead. Get it?
Probably. See post # 23.
And an even tinier group of people critical to the survival of the country who get periodic tests.
My point is with the availability of PCR and antibody tests for the first time in history we're able to identify everyone exposed to a virus, and those people will be deliberately and maliciously added to the denominator (which for every epidemic prior to this only included the overtly sick) with the explicit intent of downplaying the the real fatality rate, to prove Orange Man Bad! HE'S the one who overreacted and crashed the economy!!!
If only he hadn't stolen the election, we'd have been saved by St. Hillary the divine! (The virus would have committed suicide...)
Anyone with half a brain (Biden, two frontal lobe brain surgeies) could do a better job!
I think he is.
The current plan is to 'test thousands' of people with no symptoms to 'determine the actual infection rate/herd immunity'...
...and to distort and inflate the demonstrator to minimize the the reported fatality rate.
Better, use your method to calculate
the mortality rate: deaths/confirmed to calculate
the survival rate: recovered/confirmed.
Do those percentages add up to 100%?
The official rate is 3.4%, which is an overall average that is not taking into account people’s ages, health status or lifestyles.
It is also expected to moderate as it filters through the population as the virus adapts in order to survive, so I think the 2% is just an offhand mark that is probably reasonably accurate. It might end up being 2.3% or 1.7% in a literal sense.
Hint, the percentages must add up to 100%.
The generally accepted number is 0.1%
Agreed. The “official” rate includes, for the first time in history, people who were never il [sic] in the denominator.
Use it to compare to past epidemics’ statistics with caution.
Nope.
Read post # 23.
If you have not been cured from coronavirus yet, it doesn't mean you are dead.
People get treated for heart disease, cancer etc for years before recovery. How long has coronavirus been around?
It changes, because the virus is moderating itself in order to survive in the human body. All viral diseases do that, adapt in order to survive and not be eliminated completely.
That’s why the official death will continue to trend downward until it can’t trend downward anymore. The Spanish Flu did the same thing. When it first existed in 1917, it killed 100 million people, but now it only kills tens of thousands each year. The same thing will happen with this virus.
Hospitals get more money for COVID diagnosis, and even more for using ventilators.
A patient who would normally stiff the hospital, or one whose insurance company would only pay a lower negotiated price, or would be covered by medicare/medicaid becomes a cash cow, if it says COVID-19 on their charts!
It also doesn't mean you will survive.
If you use people who have completed the disease process as the denominator (which, by the way, is a hidden assumption in the text book formula for historic epidemics), you don't get the silly result of the percentage of survivors and the parentage of fatalities not adding up to 100.
It also doesn't mean you will survive.
If you use people who have completed the disease process as the denominator (which, by the way, is a hidden assumption in the text book formula for historic epidemics), you don't get the silly result of the percentage of survivors and the parentage of fatalities not adding up to 100.
The mortality rate for all humans is 100%.
No getting around that.
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