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CONFIRMED: They’re Inflating Wuhan Virus Death Rates Nationally
The Hayride ^ | April 8, 2020 | Scott McKay

Posted on 04/08/2020 8:52:41 AM PDT by abb

We’ve been harping on this for a couple of weeks now, focusing on it in Louisiana, but last week it started to become a more national thing when Fox News anchor emeritus Brit Hume noted on Twitter that New York’s Wuhan virus death rate reflects everybody who has the virus and then dies, whether they die of the virus or some other cause.

Hume was pilloried by the usual suspects, but his reasoning was quite sound.

And since we know the vast majority of the people who get a serious enough case of the Wuhan virus to put their lives in jeopardy have some other medical condition acting as a comorbidity, there’s a real gray area in many cases as to whether the virus was the true cause of death.

In Italy, that country’s equivalent to Dr. Anthony Fauci (not a perfect analogy, but near enough to our purposes) admitted that seven out of eight deaths attributed to the virus were really caused by one or more other comorbidities. In other words, the patient was on death’s door whether the virus got to them or not.

Well, Hume’s critics can apologize to him, because his suspicions are now confirmed – not just in New York, or in Louisiana like we’ve been saying, but everywhere.

Dr. Deborah Birx, who everybody seems to like because she dresses so well, admitted those death totals are inflated as a matter of policy.

The federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone’s life.

Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House coronavirus task force, said the federal government is continuing to count the suspected COVID-19 deaths, despite other nations doing the opposite.

“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem,” she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. “Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

“The intent is … if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that,” she added.

Asked whether the numbers could skew data the government is trying to collect, Birx said that would mostly apply more to rural areas where testing isn’t being implemented on a wide scale.

“I’m pretty confident that in New York City and New Jersey and places that have these large outbreaks and COVID-only hospitals. … I can tell you they are testing,” she said.

This isn’t semantics, so you’ll know. The death totals are a key element of data being thrown around by local and national media all over the country to keep people in a state of panic over the virus and tamp down what would otherwise be a widespread revolt by the American people against the draconian social isolation measures mayors and governors are imposing at the suggestion of federal bureaucrats like Fauci and Birx.

Because if it weren’t for the death rate, you couldn’t scare people over lots of numbers of “cases” of the Wuhan virus. The vast majority of the people who get it don’t have a serious case, and they’re not going to change their lives over an admonition that they might get sick with a cough or a fever. We’re not as tough a people as we used to be, but we aren’t quite that fragile. At least not yet. But when you show a big death rate and scare people that they’re going to die, you’ll get their attention and their compliance.

The latest numbers show that some 12,000 Americans have lost their lives from the Wuhan virus. That’s an equivalent number to those who died during the 2009-10 H1N1 swine flu epidemic. But the swine flu was far more indiscriminate in its victims and comorbidity was much less of a factor than in this case. If the Italian formula turns out to be correct here, and we’ll never really know because nobody is going to do 12,000 autopsies to determine the real causes of death of these poor folks, do you think the public would have allowed itself to be placed under a soft form of house arrest over 1,500 Wuhan virus deaths nationally?

The answer is no, and people would simply have refused to cooperate. They’ve made a very big deal out of the defiance of Tony Spell, the pastor of Life Tabernacle Church in Central who has continued holding church services in defiance of the governor’s stay-at-home order, but there would be 10,000 Tony Spells all across the state, and not just among religious leaders, if we were talking about, say, 70 Louisianans dead instead of just under 600.

President Trump is clearly bristling under this economic lockdown and he has people making noises about getting the country back to work. It’s a decent bet that Jeff Crouere’s column Monday about May 1 as a date when things begin opening back up is right.

But we’ve heard very, very little about when Louisiana will be back open for business, and that had better change soon. This can’t continue forever – not when we’re starting to recognize those who are imposing it on us have not been honest with us.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birx; corona; covid19; disease; louisiana; shutdown; whuhanflu
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the numbers are cooked.
1 posted on 04/08/2020 8:52:41 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb
I am SHOCKED!

How can this BE????

2 posted on 04/08/2020 8:55:29 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: abb

Please post the people who died with Covid but not from Covid but the death report said Covid.

This sounds like conjecture. I’d like to see some actual cases.


3 posted on 04/08/2020 8:56:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: cloudmountain

With the mere click of a keyboard, that’s how.


4 posted on 04/08/2020 8:56:47 AM PDT by abb
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Flu Bros can’t have it both ways. You can’t beat people over the head with cooked seasonal flu numbers for MONTHS and then complain that covid numbers are cooked.

“hurrr, 18 billion die of the flu every year!”

How many times have you seen “Just the flu” on a death certificate?


5 posted on 04/08/2020 8:56:51 AM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: abb
“The intent is … if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that,” she added.

This is the money quote… I heard her say yesterday at the press conference

6 posted on 04/08/2020 8:57:40 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government...)
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To: abb

If a twenty year old is admitted to the emergency room do to a car accident and dies of his injuries, and he also is symptomatic of COVID, it is a COVID death and the government will pay all hospital costs.


7 posted on 04/08/2020 8:57:46 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: abb
Yes, but COVID-19 may have been the last straw for some people, so it was A cause of death if not THE cause of death.
8 posted on 04/08/2020 8:58:29 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: AppyPappy

Better yet, YOU show me the autopsies. Meanwhile 10 million and more of your and my fellow Americans are out of work.

That number AIN’T made up.


9 posted on 04/08/2020 8:58:36 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

#OUAN Open up America Now!!


10 posted on 04/08/2020 8:58:56 AM PDT by dhuls (better late than never)
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To: proust

You psychos just ain’t gonna give it up, are you? No matter that 10 million and more are out of work.


11 posted on 04/08/2020 8:59:47 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

how do the flu deaths compare between 2019 and 2020? I don’t have that data but suspect flu deaths for 2020 are considerably lower because they are being lumped in with caronavirus. How about bronchitis, asthma, COPD - compare deaths between the two years.


12 posted on 04/08/2020 9:00:02 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: abb
Better yet, YOU show me the autopsies. Meanwhile 10 million and more of your and my fellow Americans are out of work.
That number AIN’T made up.

THAT is the bad news.

13 posted on 04/08/2020 9:00:12 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

The psychos don’t give a damn. They’ve got a point to prove.


14 posted on 04/08/2020 9:01:16 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

The number of “deaths at home” in New York City are running at 10 times the normal daily rate.

The bodies are not being tested. Do you think none of these people have this virus? How many would you count to make an accurate record of the toll of the virus?


15 posted on 04/08/2020 9:01:23 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

Says who?


16 posted on 04/08/2020 9:02:02 AM PDT by abb
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To: cloudmountain

In a word, Duh!


17 posted on 04/08/2020 9:02:26 AM PDT by wally_bert (Spend like you were going to the electric chair!)
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To: AppyPappy

“...This sounds like conjecture. I’d like to see some actual cases.”
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Hmmm... maybe you should ask Dr. Deborah Birx?


18 posted on 04/08/2020 9:02:42 AM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT!)
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To: abb

So THIS time we must trust the media.

The media wouldn’t lie to us about something as important as this.

Why WOULD they?

Who here can be so heartless as to complain about Big Media’s reporting AT THIS TIME?!

Almost unbelieveably, I definitely need the /s.


19 posted on 04/08/2020 9:03:21 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

20 posted on 04/08/2020 9:03:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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