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Tracking site suggests White House model is overestimating coronavirus hospitalizations
Just the News ^ | April 5,2020 | By Daniel Payne

Posted on 04/05/2020 3:38:46 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Web site that tracks actual hospital beds in use suggests the model used by top White House health officials to project the trajectory of the coronavirus has so far overestimated the number of Americans hospitalized by the disease by tens of thousands.

Those projections, popularly known as the "Murray" model after the model's lead author, University of Washington professor Christopher Murray, were explicitly cited by Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House's Coronavirus Task Force, at a press conference in the last week.

Birx told reporters that Murray's model, which predicts a shortage of tens of thousands of hospital beds throughout the country by the middle of April, underscored the task force's "concern that we had with the growing number of potential fatalities" based on the model's projections.

White House officials did not respond to requests for comment from Just the News.

But at a White House press conference on Saturday, Birx said that coronavirus modelers are "re-evaluating all of their models in light of the level of the impact of the mitigation."

"Just to be clear, we won't know how valid the models are until we move all the way through the epidemic," she said.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, meanwhile, reportedly said during a recent meeting that disease models "don’t tell you anything. You can’t really rely upon models."

Fauci has elsewhere indicated a preference for overestimating the possible effect of the coronavirus pandemic in the United States, telling reporters in March: "I think we should be overly aggressive and get criticized for overreacting."

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1 posted on 04/05/2020 3:38:46 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Ya think? Not you. The “experts”.


2 posted on 04/05/2020 3:39:48 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Hojczyk

Sounds like we need to go out and mingle to get those numbers up.


3 posted on 04/05/2020 3:40:00 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Hojczyk

That’s an understatement!


4 posted on 04/05/2020 3:40:36 PM PDT by loucon
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To: Hojczyk

All the data that you really want to know is hidden by HIPPA.


5 posted on 04/05/2020 3:40:46 PM PDT by ptsal ( Bust the NVIA)
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To: Hojczyk

I consider that a good thing

I would rather plan for the worse and hope for the best


6 posted on 04/05/2020 3:42:22 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Hojczyk

I have to redo my math but I’m not seeing more than 50K dead after this and who knows how many of those are ‘died with’ vs ‘died of.’


7 posted on 04/05/2020 3:42:41 PM PDT by tinyowl
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To: Hojczyk

There putting the country in a depression...

There laying off nurses where I live

The only ones who will survive...government workers,teachers,and college professors....and the iyis in Congress...

People will be scared to death to leave there homes when we a allowed by the new dictators in this county...governors
..


8 posted on 04/05/2020 3:46:15 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Agreed. Because it makes Fauci and the Dem/Media Party look like they overreacted.


9 posted on 04/05/2020 3:47:24 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Hojczyk

“Just to be clear, we won’t know how valid the models are until we move all the way through the epidemic,” she said.

Then what the hell are they good for?

“All models are wrong, but some are useful”. — George E. P. Box


10 posted on 04/05/2020 3:49:03 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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They made a big thing of the Oregon governor who ordered 140 ventilators from the Fed stockpile for her state then turning around and donating the 140 to New York. She has 738 ventilators in Oregon. Number of people currently on ventilators - 38. That tells me something.That is why Trump has been saying the need for ventilators is way overblown and exaggerated.


11 posted on 04/05/2020 3:49:34 PM PDT by chuckee
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Oh “The Whitehouse is” is it?
I am pretty sure keeping track of that is delegated to the CDC who is supposed to report accurate numbers to the President.

If the numbers are inaccurate then it goes without saying that people at the CDC need to be fired for cause.


12 posted on 04/05/2020 3:50:49 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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13 posted on 04/05/2020 3:52:02 PM PDT by Flick Lives (A liberal is someone who worries that somewhere, someone is enjoying life.)
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To: Hojczyk

So, after stuff literally isn’t adding up —

Birx - “...reevaluating”

Fauci - “...models don’t tell you anything[!]”

Dude!

Who made the model you have been plastering all over planet erf!

Let me guess, The Bill and Melinda China & RUS Gates Foundation !!

No joke, there are significant connections to P4/L4 Wuhan lab.


14 posted on 04/05/2020 3:57:24 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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To: Hojczyk

I am not the brightest nor smartest but why do I ALWAYS predict what will happen when crisis is hijacked and guv,politia-whores and medi-duh take the crisis for a ride?


15 posted on 04/05/2020 4:01:54 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: chuckee
They made a big thing of the Oregon governor who ordered 140 ventilators from the Fed stockpile for her state then turning around and donating the 140 to New York. She has 738 ventilators in Oregon. Number of people currently on ventilators - 38. That tells me something.That is why Trump has been saying the need for ventilators is way overblown and exaggerated.

In a few months they are going to be selling for a couple hundred.

"New, never used".

16 posted on 04/05/2020 4:02:25 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Hojczyk

I have not seen any actuals for the hospital beds, only the daily deaths through April 1.


17 posted on 04/05/2020 4:10:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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"You can’t really rely upon models."

So you have to go with the tried and true isolate, isolate, isolate?

18 posted on 04/05/2020 4:12:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Hojczyk

X is an unknown variable

Spurt is a drip under pressure


19 posted on 04/05/2020 4:16:35 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Hojczyk

The “basic reproduction number”, the R-naught number, for Covid-19 was calculated as 2.2 on March 20th. That’s without without the social separation and other mediation.

To get an idea of what the number of infected would be after a month we could look at the Doubling Pennies Problem. The Pennies “basic reproduction number” is 2. Slightly less than the Covid virus.

You start with one penny on day one. 1

You double that on day two. 2x1= 2; and then add day one 2+1 =3 for the total.

On day three you double day two, 2x2=4. Then add the previous total 4+3 = 7 for the new total.

Seems like no big deal at first, but by day 30 you end up with over a billion pennies.


20 posted on 04/05/2020 4:16:51 PM PDT by Pelham (Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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