Posted on 04/06/2020 11:23:41 AM PDT by nwrep
America’s major medical society specializing in the treatment of respiratory diseases has endorsed using hydroxychloroquine for seriously ill hospitalized coronavirus patients.
The American Thoracic Society issued guidelines Monday that suggest COVID-19 patients with pneumonia get doses of the anti-malaria drug.
“To prescribe hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) to hospitalized patients with COVID-19 pneumonia if all of the following apply: a) shared decision-making is possible, b) data can be collected for interim comparisons of patients who received hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) versus those who did not, c) the illness is sufficiently severe to warrant investigational therapy, and d) the drug is not in short supply,” the Thoracic Society said.
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but that would skew the results because you may already have what it takes in your DNA to fight it. only a double blind test will tell the truth.../s
Z-pak is to stop infection in the lungs.
Zinc is also a critical part, I believe. (Also harmless.)
Here is a good story: https://abc7.com/health/la-doctor-seeing-success-with-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-covid-19/6079864/
“Every patient I’ve prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free,” Cardillo told Eyewitness News. “So clinically I am seeing a resolution.”
FYI, street prices (before Covid) for HCQ was $40 for 50 pills. Z-Paks are $15. Zinc is $20.
If they manage to restrict the drug only to “severely ill coronavirus patients,” they bias the results of any resulting studies against its use because it works best in recently diagnosed patients who are mostly asymptomatic. Looks like they’re truing to get Trump by killing people who need the drug ASAP.
My understanding it is the Z pak
Most folks have no trouble taking a Z pak.......it is a common antibiotic
The AMA has not been “American” or “Medical” for a long, long time. The # of MDs, or the %age, has been barely above single digits for decades. Phylis Schafly wrote an expose on them years ago. They are frauds and their “Journal” has been a joke for decades.
Now, the Thoracic Society is a different matter. It would be interesting to see the data they are basing this on.
I have AFIB and took z=pak for cat bite and did not affect afib at all. Monitored with my Kardia. No effect.
Can get a bottle of the zinc 222 anywhere on the internet for around $15. Lots in stock as of yesterday. No prescription needed.
It doesn’t have to be double-blind to compare the results of patients taking HCQ with those who don’t, but it does have to be controlled. The purpose of double-blind is to decrease bias from investigators and subjects. There is a whole lot of risk of bias from people touting HCQ. Controls are necessary to make such a study legitimate. What if the people receiving HCQ were mostly 30 year olds?
Sufficiently severe to warrant investigational therapy does not have to mean waiting until they’re on a ventilator. It could just mean that they’re sick enough to be in the hospital, or have severe sepsis (sepsis with organ dysfunction, not the same as organ failure). It also doesn’t have to mean they’re just going to put people on these medications and then wait and see who dies. Institutional Review Boards (IRBs) review proposed studies to protect the public and keep tabs on them. If it’s noticed during the study that people not receiving HCQ are being harmed by not receiving it, they will stop the study early so the control group can be treated too.
D. short supply is a big one. If everyone who was concerned about COVID-19 or had a cough got a script for HCQ, you could easily have shortages affecting the sickest patients.
My 96 year old father has been taking the Hydroxychloroquine for 3 years now for arthritis in his wrists with absolutely no side effects that he is aware of.
I wish President Trump had followed his intuition and encouraged the drug companies to at least tool up to produce hydroxychloroquine on a large scale weeks ago. Quinine itself can be synthesized, but Wikipedia says it is still gotten commercially from the bark of the Cinchona plants. I don’t know if quinine is needed as a precursor of hydroxychloroquine.
Nobody goes to that restaurant anymore. It’s too crowded.
Darn. I turned out off. What happened? Dr.Oz was great at 11:30am.
Missed Dr. Oz as I wasn’t here at the time.
Turned it off after haseltine finished spewing about the ineffectiveness of HCQ.
Tired of my sensibilities getting abused.
Worthless.
Did you read their limitations?
The American Thoracic Society issued guidelines Monday that suggest COVID-19 patients with pneumonia get doses of the anti-malaria drug.
“To prescribe hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) to hospitalized patients with COVID-19 pneumonia if all of the following apply:
a) shared decision-making is possible,
b) data can be collected for interim comparisons of patients who received hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine) versus those who did not,
c) the illness is sufficiently severe to warrant investigational therapy, and
d) the drug is not in short supply,”
the Thoracic Society said.
The use of hydroxychloroquine has been hotly debated.
I think now is the time for Boris Johnson to start this cocktail!!! Just sent to Intensive Care!
So are the putting him in a coma?
GRRRRRR!!!!
Yes! That doctor (I didn’t catch his name) said that hydroxychloroquine has little to no effect in treating COVID-19. No mention of using it in conjunction with zinc or Azithromycin (Z-pack).
Dana should interview that doctor in LA (Dr. Anthony Cardillo) who is using it in combination with zinc and having good results.
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