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Cuomo Stunner – New York may already be at apex of cases…(only 16k of 110k beds filled)
Press Conference ^ | 4/4/20 | Andy Cuomo

Posted on 04/05/2020 11:49:05 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001

Reporter asks ‘you are using only 16,000 beds, and you said you would need at least 110,000.’ As Tucker discussed Friday night, hospitalization rates nationwide are only about 15-20% of what the models predicted.

video at link-start at 20:40 mark


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; cuomo; disease; flu; gonebyapril; itsover; newyork; nyc; trumpwinsagain
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To: ltc8k6

Figures


101 posted on 04/05/2020 2:12:55 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: RetiredScientist

“It is easy for us to sit behind a keyboard and criticize them. Ask yourself, if you had to make these decisions and realized you had to answer to a partisan press who wanted stories where “If it bleeds, it leads”, what would you do?”

Hey pal, I was merely commenting that a reporter asked Cuomo a valid question, which has been a rarity with him, inasmuch the reporters interrogating the president is completely opposite.


102 posted on 04/05/2020 2:12:59 PM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“What the hell is the matter with women today!!!”

A question asked since the dawn of time.


103 posted on 04/05/2020 2:15:21 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: RetiredScientist

“Our county has 3498 cases and 83 deaths with a death rate of 2.37 percent.”

Your county has 3498 known cases and who knows HOW many unknown cases. In other words, your county has no idea how many people have been infected.

In order to understand what’s going on, they need extensive RANDOM testing to estimate the true level and spread of infected.

Testing and confirming only those sick enough to need hospitalization, and then using that case database as the denominator to calculate a mortality rate, or as a base for the rate of spread - is just INSANE!

That is like saying that if 2% of all people hospitalized for bee stings died as a result, then we can conclude 2% is the death rate from bee stings! Obviously, that is absurd, because the ONLY people who go to the hospital for bee stings are the people who feel their life is in danger - it is a statistically flawed sample.

It is the same with Coronavirus, and it is the reason the “case” data, and the “curve”, and the “death rate” - it’s all a load of crap.

Hey, maybe this virus is as bad as the Spanish Flu - I’m not trying to downplay anything.

But until they do random testing and get a good estimate of the true number of infections, they know nothing at all.


104 posted on 04/05/2020 2:23:00 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: Libloather

For some reason I believe her


105 posted on 04/05/2020 2:24:12 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: Sarah Barracuda

heh heh....she said boobs....heh heh


106 posted on 04/05/2020 2:27:50 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: P.O.E.
Models are not a good place to look for flattened curves.

Guaranteed: BEST line on this thread!

107 posted on 04/05/2020 2:30:59 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Bob434

My girlfriend and her son both had the ‘crud’ the end of November. Could barely breath but both tested negative for flu or pneumonia. Thankfully, I got nothing.


108 posted on 04/05/2020 2:33:25 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gays can give blood but I can't)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

thanks....that’s a big one I overlooked.....easily a million nursing home deaths a year, wouldn’t you guess ?


109 posted on 04/05/2020 2:37:35 PM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: DannyTN

It takes about 5 days to show symptoms so if cases were down last two days it means fewer infections 5-6 days ago which would be a Monday or Tuesday. Nothing to do with subway ridership on weekends


110 posted on 04/05/2020 2:37:46 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: spacejunkie2001

damn auto correct meant to say BOOKS


111 posted on 04/05/2020 2:51:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: spacejunkie2001

If this is true what Trump has been saying about the exaggeration of the need for ventilators in this crisis is way overblown is true.After Cuomo whining to trump to send in the corps of engineers to build him temp hospitals,The Corps of Engineers built a 2500 bed temp hospital in the NYC Javits center exclusively for covid 19 patients. Not a one is there.


112 posted on 04/05/2020 3:01:45 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: chuckee

This HAS to be exposed soon. I know Trump pays astute attention to what’s going on so I am standing in belief he will be making changes soon. Like a poster just said that Trump said at a recent presser that he is adding more people to the cv team and I think it’s to dilute the evil being brought on by fauci and birx


113 posted on 04/05/2020 3:08:52 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Jim Robinson
Hi Jim. I checked the NY Times github repository. I looked at what they had and did not see Flu.

That said, the CDC is tracking Flu for this season. Flu is a bit more complicated because they are tracking two strains, "A" and "B". The data file is an html page and needs to be screen-scraped. They are also plotting cases not total cases like COVID-19. That said, there is a nice graphic CDC Weekly Flu Plot here.

I'll see what I can do with the data and try to generate something with total cases. The weekly dates are an odd format so need to be converted. It needs some data "cleaning" to compare to the COVID-19. That is the annoying part of data analysis. If I get something useful, I'll post it.

114 posted on 04/05/2020 3:10:50 PM PDT by RetiredScientist
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To: xkaydet65

“What numbers are a fraud ? The actual cases, the hospital usage. The deaths ? The numbers reported each day in NY and NJ are not a fraud.”

I won’t use the term fraud. I will use the term uncertainty as to cause. Simply put, most that die are over 80 and already have preexisting conditions. They also have tested positive for Covid. NY counts anyone that has covid as a covid death even though the covid was not a contributing factor to their death. Germany does not. Why do you think that Germany has the lowest mortality rate, less than 1/2 of 1% relative to cases in the world and Italy has the highest. Italy counts covid deaths like NY does.


115 posted on 04/05/2020 3:11:04 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: DannyTN

ny subways a few days ago.

Maybe the crying Gov needs to address this as well as why planned parenthood is using medical equipment when it is needed elsewhere .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIMu911TcWU&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0OMz1XP1_4YdGP_HoBi0Jp7fdmIIq-xsSukJBxJjmUkCRU44Z6xQQT9F8

FB has banned me from showing it on there.


116 posted on 04/05/2020 3:18:08 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Weekends impact testing.


117 posted on 04/05/2020 3:22:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: spacejunkie2001
Cuomo actually said, multiple times, that “Cabin Fever” is a real threat to our Constitution.

I could not stop laughing!

118 posted on 04/05/2020 3:34:41 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: enumerated

They would have to do random samplings of a certain given number each testing cycle over several weeks to see if the numbers are increasing or decreasing. It’s bit late in the game but with antibody testing becoming available we can at assess the true number of exposed/ got over it folks.


119 posted on 04/05/2020 3:37:40 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Amendment10
“While I appreciate Cuomo’s optimism regarding the light at end of tunnel, he still needs to be careful what he tells people with cabin fever imo.”

Because, as you know, “cabin fever is a true threat to the Constitution.”

120 posted on 04/05/2020 3:41:32 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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