Posted on 04/01/2020 6:25:36 PM PDT by Enlightened1
All the panic mongering and all those gobbling it up to the point where a number of deaths outweighed the life of a nation made it all possible - we still have folks on FR who haven't grasped the actual danger to our nation from this...especially if the dems retain any power after next election...and God forbid they manage to steal the WH...this would be the actual point of no return we've been so concerned about ...
And yet, we keep having the self-absorbed quipping, "Yeah, it's just like the Flu" so they can feel good about helping to destroy our whole nation for extending the lives of a lot of people who will not likely be around in a year or two even if they don't get the virus...may sound harsh, but it's pretty much been proven...
We have all swallowed the dem poison pill and argument for all their anti-FReedom arguments...."If it saves even one life...."
“Those people should just go ahead and die and reduce the surplus population”
We need widespread antibody testing for this. If these numbers are vast, perhaps extreme self-quarantine by people who have underlying health conditions, while the others get back to work, would be better overall.
Everyone’s fat now. Makes me really miss the 70s/80s. Thin shapely girls in tight jeans. Now they show fat women in underwear commercials but they start out with a thin one to get us guys to look and then boom, camel toe in your face.
I’m definitely in God’s Waiting Room; He just hasn’t called me into His Office, yet.
Seventy percent of Americans are on some type of prescription drugs.
Buls#it. The VAST majority with any flu are not recorded in the number of confirmed cases. You've conceded that 80% of those that have had this virus aren't included in the number of confirmed cases.
There is NO chance the actual death rate among those 10-40 is any higher than seasonal flu. In fact, it might be lower. THAT THAT IS FACT, one can't stand because you can't spread your usual fear on the issue in that age group. I don't what your agenda here is other than saving yourself but isn't going to fly much longer. There is no way the masses, especially those with little risk of death, are going to tolerate their economic futures being destroyed.
Troll? ROFFLOL!!
You bring up an interesting thought.
China launches a biological war on us and the dims/media launch a psychological war on us.
Maybe that is why Pelosi sat on the impeachment documents for a while to allow the virus to take hold?
Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight?
I would put anything past the dims/media including colluding with the chinese. Both have the same goals.
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
And, yes, you are a well known troll.
Whatever AH.
“That was from their own publication.”
Looking at the stats for 8 or 10 years going back and comparing them to the stats for this year, then subtracting the official CCP-9 death toll still leaves a 12x normal death rate.
Your attempt to conflate that particular item with the undisputed statement about underlying comorbidities is disingenuous.
The other big lie you guys tell to try and salvage your narrative is that people dying from other contagious diseases are not also dealing with underlying health issues. Healthy people don’t die from the flu very often, either.
If you died one second sooner due to CCP-19, it was CCP-19 that killed you. If you died on second sooner from the flu, a gunshot wound or a car crash, then that was what killed you. If you were in an ambulance being raced to the hospital for treatment for acute respiratory distress due to CCP-19 and your ambulance gets hit by a train and you die in the wreck, it was a train that killed you.
You guys in the depths of your denial keep moving the goal posts. How many lies are you willing to tell, how many people are you willing to kill, to get back to your “normal”?
“If true, then almost no one will be dying from cancer or those other diseases, should everyone be infected. Odd way for Italy to play with the stats?”
If they downplay the CCP-19 deaths then people will wonder why so many more people are dying and the hospitals are crashed. If they admit the true numbers they look totally incompetent. Somewhere in the middle is their safest territory. They can play the foreign-virus card to cover for their incompetence. And, as stated, there are 12x normal non-CCP-19 deaths. Not to mention the fact that China is a big player in the Italian economy. Short answer: politics.
As written...The experts continue to promote “models” and “theories” at their press briefings.....Why not facts?
Because data and stat facts aren’t there yet to state as facts. Dah!
“Buls#it. The VAST majority with any flu are not recorded in the number of confirmed cases. You’ve conceded that 80% of those that have had this virus aren’t included in the number of confirmed cases.”
You are again deliberately misrepresenting the stats, and misrepresenting what I said.
The number of flu cases is based on the CDC’s estimate. Most people self treat. Some go to the doctor and are told how to self-treat or are admitted to the hospital. Some of the ones that go to the hospital end up in ICUs. Of all of those categories, 0.1% die. Then there are the supposed cases that are so mild the infected person doesn’t even know they were sick. We don’t do random testing, so we have no number for them and they are not counted.
The number of CCP-19 cases is based on testing and includes a large number of asymptomatic infected - a number we don’t count for the flu - largely due to contact tracing. This dilutes the case count relative to the flu, which only makes the flu seem more lethal than it really is, rather than somehow making CCP-19 less lethal. Nevertheless, even including those cases we don’t even count for the flu, CCP-19 is 20 times as deadly per case.
When I have made FluBro-friendly assumptions in my estimates and calculations, I have also clarified that I am doing it to avoid these distortions and deceptive claims - clearly you didn’t choose to comprehend that part.
“There is NO chance the actual death rate among those 10-40 is any higher than seasonal flu. In fact, it might be lower.”
Please provide a source for your claims and the calculations to prove it. I’ve asked you before but all you do is shout louder.
“THAT THAT IS FACT”
Shouting and stuttering won’t make it true, but if it is true, you should have no problem putting up some legitimate stats to prove it.
“There is no way the masses, especially those with little risk of death, are going to tolerate their economic futures being destroyed.”
The only futures being destroyed are those of the people you will endanger due to your normalcy bias. Sit tight for a month and things will start to get back to normal. Keep up your weapons-grade ODD and it’ll be another month or two. Then you will have fulfilled your prophecy of economic doom by your own actions.
“You can’t contain COVID-19 either.”
That is absolutely correct. We missed our chance when Italy had a hugging spree and we didn’t shut down travel from Europe. It may not have been politically feasible to do more than we did and Trump took plenty of flak for it anyway.
But even if containment is ultimately futile, it still slows the virus down. It’s a rear-guard action while we develop and deploy countermeasures.
“And if all those people staying home are asked to build hospitals like people in WW2 were asked to build weapons, they could be built.”
Sure, but they would be being built on the battlefield. The cost would be high.
“The fear of running out of hospital beds is just hyped up and overblown. Technically the ones we have now would run out but we are exercising plenty of easy options to make more.”
No, it isn’t. It happened in several places already and shifting people around to available space is a logistical nightmare to be minimized. If the virus is let to run amok the entire nation’s HCS would be overwhelmed as people fled from place to place looking to get medical help and infecting everybody else as they went. We are building hospitals and medical equipment, but it takes time. Those are the countermeasures I referenced above. All it takes is one super spreader in a city to create another NYC. Then we have a huge setback and another ridiculous body count.
Yep.
Does a double hump ever happen with these disease outbreaks in the same geographical area? Seems like that only happens months later if a virus mutates. We don’t seem to have any evidence yet that COVID-19 can surge, subside and then surge again in the same place. Isn’t that the concept of flatten the curve? That there is only one curve or one hump, and we want to shrink the size of it. But once we’re over the hump, we don’t expect to see another hump in the near future.
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