Remains of 90-million-year-old rainforest found near South Pole

UPI ^ | April 1, 2020 | By Brooks Hays

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Some 90 million years ago, a temperate rainforest grew near the South Pole. Scientists recovered fossil traces of the ancient rainforest from seafloor sediment cores collected near West Antarctica's Pine Island Glacier.

Seismic data suggested the sediment layer was unique, but researchers weren't expecting to find the remnants of a Cretaceous forest.

"The finding of this well preserved 'forest soil' layer was actually a lucky dip," researcher Ulrich Salzmann, professor of palaeoecology at the University of Northumbria in Britain, told UPI. "We did not know of the existence of this layer before."

Among the sediment layers, Salzmann and his research partners found roots, pollen, spores and the remains of flowering plants. Scientists were able to use the various plant remains to piece together a fuller picture of what exactly Antarctica's ancient forest looked like.

"This was a swampy forest, dominated by needle-leaved conifer trees with many ferns. The forest was a temperate -- not a tropical -- rainforest, similar to the forests found today in New Zealand," Salzmann said. "Summer temperatures averaged 19 degrees Celsius and water temperatures in rivers and swamps reached up to 20 degrees. This was despite a four-month polar night, meaning for a third of every year there was no life-giving sunlight at all."

Scientists estimate the polar rainforest persisted until the Oligocene epoch, before fragmenting some 20 million years ago. Pockets of rainforest likely remained viable until 10 million years ago.

Antarctica and the South Pole has moved a bit over the last 90 million years, but tectonic shifts don't account for the emergence and disappearance of the ancient Antarctic forest. The polar forest was made possible by climate change.

[rxsid]

Your welcome :)

[going hot]

Close.

The Earth wobbles on it's axis, like a top, and the axis describes a circle that takes 25000 + years to complete. The north star becomes vega, every 12 thousand years, then back to polaris.

The polar caps are still there, but moved over, so the current poles are in a more temperate climate.

Add some continental drift over 90 M years, and you are bound so find stuff under the current ice.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“ And yet, the Athenasian Creed is the basis for the Doctrine of the Trinity.”

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False. You are stuck teppe, on a continuous loop.

I don’t believe God is triune because of any creed.

[BrandtMichaels]

I do believe this fits in with the hydroplate theory...

see Center for Scientific Creation
https://www.creationscience.com/

[Elsie]

This was despite a four-month polar night, meaning for a third of every year there was no life-giving sunlight at all."

You guys had better check with the plate tectonic folks and astronomers to see if the South Pole was actually located AT the south pole during this time period.

[Elsie]

Sodium laced water at orbital temperature is a super conductor and would levitate on the planetary magnetic field.

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Simple third grade science...

Really?

I must have had the mumps that week.

[Elsie]

“...and it was uphill all the way.”

Caveman Gruff; to his grandkids

[Elsie]

Stay tuned to the History channel; as I predict it WILL be there soon!

[Elsie]

o: teppe

First we need to see if there’s evidence of the Athenasian Creed in the Bible!

I can find the Trinity in the Book of Mormon.

Does THAT count??

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Trinity:

 

found in the Book of MORMON        

Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No. (Alma 11:28-29)

...and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil. (Alma 11:44)

...doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen. (2 Nephi 31:21)

...praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end. (Mormon 7:7)

...power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son--And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth. And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, (Mosiah 15:3-5)

...of Jared, that whoso should possess this land of promise, from that time henceforth and forever, should serve him, the true and only God, or they should be swept off when the fulness of his wrath should come upon them. (Ether 2:8)

"Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name." (3 Nephi 9:15)

"And again the Lord called others, and said unto them likewise; and he gave unto them power to baptize. And he said unto them: On this wise shall ye baptize; and there shall be no disputations among you. Verily I say unto you, that whoso repenteth of his sins through your words and desireth to be baptized in my name, on this wise shall ye baptize them--Behold, ye shall go down and stand in the water, and in my name shall ye baptize them. And now behold, these are the words which ye shall say, calling them by name, saying: Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. And then shall ye immerse them in the water, and come forth again out of the water. And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one...And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the Holy Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are one." (3 Nephi 11:22-27, 36)

 

[Elsie]

 First we need to see if there’s evidence of the Athenasian Creed in the Bible!

I can find the MORMON Creed in LDS Scripture.

Does THAT count??

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http://wordcentral.com/cgi-bin/student?creed

 

Main Entry: creed 
Pronunciation: krd
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English crede "creed," from Old English crda (same meaning), from Latin credo, literally, "I believe" (used as the first words in many creeds), from credere "to believe, trust, entrust" --related to CREDENTIALS, CREDIT, INCREDIBLE
1 : a statement of the basic beliefs of a religious faith
2 : a set of guiding principles or beliefs

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The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor, in response to

Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.

They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.

They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 

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THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541

 

 

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
   
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
   
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
   
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
   
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
   
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
   
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
   
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
   
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
   
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
    
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
    
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

[Elsie]

No creed is inspired.

But... but... the Mormon one MUST be; for it is found in the SCRIPTURES!!

[Elsie]

As well as up and down!

Suck the water or oil out, and the surface descends.

[Elsie]

And yet, the Athenasian Creed is the basis for the Doctrine of the Trinity.

No; it does not.

And you've BEEN shown countless times over the years.

Do you like continuing as though you are still ignorant of the things you've been shown?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

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[teppe]

You are wrong.

What is the religious document that defines and connects the term “Trinity” to religion?

It is NOT found in the Bible. Since it is called the ‘Doctrine of the Trinity’, the document must describe doctrine. Consequently it must be found elsewhere beyond the Bible.

As far as I can the only ‘official’ document is the Athenasian Creed.

YOU HAVE NEVER SHOWN ME WHERE THE ‘DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY’ IS DEFINED IN THE BIBLE!

Obviously, you don’t understand your own religion.

[teppe]

Then show me the document that descibes the triune (trinity) doctrine?

(hint: it is not in the Bible)

Matthew 7: 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

[teppe]

Your being dishonest by trying to equate the LDS/St.Paul’s definition of the Godhead with the ‘Doctrine of the Trinity’.

There IS a Godhead defined in the Bible, God the Father, Jesus Christ-Son and Holy Ghost.

There IS NOT a ‘Homoousios’ 3-in-1; 1-in-3; heavenly-multiple-personality-disorder, as defined by the various Catholic Nicene, Apostolic, Athanasian Creeds.

THE TRIUNE (TRINITARIAN) GOD IS NOT THE SAME AS THE GODHEAD .... AND IS NOT DEFINED IN THE BIBLE!!!!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Then show me the document that descibes the triune (trinity) doctrine?

Why would I talk to a mormonism n about truth??

They don’t seek it, nor understand it.

AND DUDE, YOUR CULT BELIEVES IN MULTIPLE GODS!

The whole cult is a sham.

[Elsie]

Since it is called the ‘Doctrine of the Trinity’,

Since YOU have put QUOTE marks around it; perhaps you'd like to explain where you FOUND this quote.

[Elsie]

YOU HAVE NEVER SHOWN ME WHERE THE ‘DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY’ IS DEFINED IN THE BIBLE!

Obviously, you don’t understand your own religion.

I HAVE SHOWN YOU WHERE THE 'TRINITY’ IS DEFINED IN THE BOOK OF MORMON!

Obviously, you don’t understand your own religion.