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Don't worry. It's no worse than a bad flue season. /s
1 posted on 03/15/2020 8:05:08 PM PDT by NRx
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Italy’s coronavirus toll surges as worries grow over hospitals
(Sunday March 15)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy/italys-coronavirus-toll-surges-as-worries-grow-over-hospitals-idUSKBN2120XN

MILAN (Reuters) - Italy recorded 368 more deaths from the coronavirus outbreak on Sunday, its biggest one day rise, amid growing concern about the ability of its strained health system to cope with the relentless increase in new cases.

While the virus has begun spreading rapidly across Europe, Italy remains the second most heavily affected country in the world after China, where the illness first emerged, and the outbreak has shown no signs of slowing.

The government is working urgently on procuring more protective equipment, Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said, adding there was maximum attention on helping Lombardy, the northern region where the virus emerged just over three weeks ago.

“Our priority is to keep doctors, nurses and all our health personnel safe,” Conte said in a statement a week after his government imposed a virtual lockdown across the country in a bid to contain the spread of the virus.

With 24,747 cases and 1,809 deaths by Sunday - a rise of 368 or 25% in the death toll in just 24 hours - Italy’s experience has offered an alarming example for other European countries which have begun seeing sharp rises in cases over recent days.

Lombardy, the heavily populated area around the financial capital Milan, has been the worst-affected region with 1,218 deaths. Of those, 252 were recorded in the last 24 hours.


2 posted on 03/15/2020 8:06:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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What did the Chinese do that the Brits couldn’t do?


3 posted on 03/15/2020 8:10:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Bad time to be missing EU nurses because of Brexit.


15 posted on 03/15/2020 8:26:06 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Party of me is beginning to think that we've reached the point of the Salem Witch Hysteria25.
16 posted on 03/15/2020 8:27:43 PM PDT by tomkat
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And all a bit media hoax to hurt Trump. Don’t forget that one....


18 posted on 03/15/2020 8:29:47 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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Boris Johnson is so worried that he hasn't even banned public gatherings or suspended public schools.
27 posted on 03/15/2020 8:46:30 PM PDT by Kazan
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My left-leaning cousin moved there almost two years ago, and she’s pregnant now. Let’s see what happens.


28 posted on 03/15/2020 8:48:54 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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Yup. And rainbow monkeys could run rampant in the London Tube. Anything *could* happen, and it’s not unwise to prepare for worst-case scenarios. But what will most likely happen is something on par with H1N1 in 2009. Time will tell.


32 posted on 03/15/2020 8:53:26 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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University of east Anglia.

Same crew who put up the Climate Change Hoax


39 posted on 03/15/2020 9:06:17 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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61 posted on 03/15/2020 9:26:46 PM PDT by bitt ("Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin)
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Why do people keep posting all this sensationalism crap from Daily Mail? Everything I have seen of theirs posted here is designed to make money for them while inciting panic. Evil.


64 posted on 03/15/2020 9:29:36 PM PDT by willk (A bias news media is not a free press.)
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Well, let’s see, 99,654 have died from the flu so far, and 344,00 from HIV/AIDS , 201,000 from malaria and while COVID-19 is serious , let’s see what we do know: The fatality rate for COVID 19 is nowhere near as high as some alarmist make it out to be (and I know when people are upset and in a panic no one likes to be told to calm down) . But the COVID-19 fatality rate is dropping as a % as more test are own and capture those with mild symptoms. That is why no one, repeat ZERO under the age of 10 has died anywhere in the world, Including China etc.

Dr. Fauci said, “That’s because many corona virus cases are so mild they’re not even being reported. “ Dr. Robert Redfield, who directs the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Dr. Clifford Lane, deputy director of the NIAID concurred, “”If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%,” Dr. Fauci and his colleagues explained.

The fatality rate as a % is already dropping and look: The two countries that have done the most testing that can be relied upon is S Korea and Germany , they have tested well over 350,000 and have a combined 13,975 cases and 86 deaths for a fatality rate of .0061 or less than 1% and that rate has been falling. That is more than the flu but nothing like what some are reporting here and in the news. The reason there is conjuncture that it may actually be much lower is that based on the Ro rate (and the fact that Italy has long been the # 1 tourist destination for China and has a large Chinese nationals living there), backing the numbers against the timeline, it is almost certain that the number of people who actually have a mild version of COVID-19 in Italy is much higher-many never even know they have it.

As an aside the other factor contributing to China, Italy and Iran deaths are that the two most important parameters in respiratory fitness are: 1. whether the person smokes cigarettes 2. the pollution level of the country. China has a smoking rate of 47.6% and Italy and Iran are also higher than us at 19.5% , pollution rates in China are 4.4 times higher than US, Iran two times an d Italy 50% higher per World Health Organziation

Furthermore: Worldwide there are 86,241 COVID-19 active cases and 93% , or are rated as mild and the mild % is rising, 7% are rated as serious and serious % is falling, about 77,992 have recovered and about 6501 have died.

So until we get a better data set to see how many people are infected (and we may never know as many recover without reporting) at the very least we shouldn’t jump to conclusions and make the negative assumptions that have been repeated as facts, i know that doesn’t play well with those in a panic. At first people were reporting the fatality rate in the US as 6%, then 3% , well it is falling now and under 2%-and falling , probably going to 1% and much lower –still serious and by all means take precautions especially for those in their 80s and 90s but the death rate is nothing like some have been projecting.

If people want something to worry about the cost of this panic and infodemic that is going on is more than monetary. For every 1% increase in unemployment in the U.S there is an increase of 1,500 to 4,000 deaths, quite a few by suicide


72 posted on 03/15/2020 9:45:45 PM PDT by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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This is what comes from unfettered immigration.


76 posted on 03/15/2020 10:00:11 PM PDT by Crucial
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American colonialists once raised the cry “The British are coming!”.

Today it is the British ex-colonialists who are crying “The virus is coming!” [Now is that the virus of Islamic sharia law and expansion, the virus of the Coronavirus, a Red Chinese gift for subverting countries, or the virus of stupidity and failed modelling that is so prevalent in Britain]?


88 posted on 03/15/2020 10:25:59 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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The world needs to decide if they want to go on full lock down for 2 weeks or have this thing drag out forever.


93 posted on 03/16/2020 4:03:16 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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