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CNN's Don Lemon, Kasich have heated exchange over Trump's coronavirus address
Fox News ^ | March 11 2020 | Joseph A. Wulfsohn

Posted on 03/12/2020 12:05:23 AM PDT by knighthawk

CNN anchor Don Lemon had a "total meltdown" according to critics on Wednesday night after a guest on his show told him that President Trump's coronavirus address from the Oval Office was "fine."

Lemon, who has repeatedly insisted that he is 'not a partisan,' had on former 2016 presidential candidate-turned-CNN contributor John Kasich to discuss the latest developments in the Trump administration's handling of the coronavirus outbreak. The anchor accused Trump of "misrepresenting" the travel ban that was set on Europe after the White House offered clarification on what was affected.

"Look, I watched the address tonight and I thought it was fine. He did fine," Kasich said. "I'm glad he did the address tonight and I think that was important."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: clintonnonnews; cnn; coronavirus; donlemon; homosexualagenda; johnkasich; kasich; media; msm; ohio; trump
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1 posted on 03/12/2020 12:05:23 AM PDT by knighthawk
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I have to admit I’m shocked:

The only argument I would expect between Lemon and Kasich is which one of them hates Trump more.


2 posted on 03/12/2020 12:10:57 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: knighthawk

Don Don the Lemon hack, the other side is where fudge is packed.


3 posted on 03/12/2020 12:15:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: knighthawk

Degenerate media.


4 posted on 03/12/2020 12:16:03 AM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Wow. What a freakin’ tantrum. Lemon is a deranged queer. When even Kasich is like, “Whoa, get a grip, man,” you know the dude has lost it. I have to think that, to some extent, the general public must see people like Lemon as “the boy who cried Trump.” Lemon and his ilk been obsessively bashing Trump now for nearly 5 years, constantly trying to gin up outrage over everything and anything he’s done. Even if they were now to find some legitimate point to criticize him, would anyone (other than the hardcore anti-Trumpers) take them seriously?


5 posted on 03/12/2020 12:19:19 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: knighthawk

I watched this exchange.

Kasich was 100 % supportive of Trump.

What happened was Lemon was being a leftist stooge. As he always is. Always.

He thought Kasich was the (””conservative” we hired to attack Trump on queue”).

As he, and even I, frankly thought he was.

What happened was that Kasich said basically he thought Trump was right.

Lemon was flabbergasted.

Didn’t know what to say.

This is not why we hired you, you could see him thinking. You are supposed to attack Trump.

Kasich again supported Trump.

Lemon totally lost it.

It was amazing to watch.

Good job, Kasich, actually.


6 posted on 03/12/2020 12:29:43 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: knighthawk

Ask this question about any government proposal. Does delaying my tax return reduce the flu problem. Does reducing my taxes reduce the flu problem. Does giving money to some reduce the problem. Does anything the government ever does reduce problems. With a very few it only adds to problems. The more government the more problems. And very few worthwhile solutions.


7 posted on 03/12/2020 12:42:43 AM PDT by mulligan (n bbnnEeThe)
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To: mulligan

I asked myself and the answer was yes.
The flu problem is more than the disease. It includes the effect on people & the panic. These actions will blunt the financial aspect of the “flu” problem.
I asked myself why someone would pose those questions when the answer was so obvious. That was an easy question to answer as well.


8 posted on 03/12/2020 1:16:04 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: JayGalt

time to refer to it as a panDEMic.


9 posted on 03/12/2020 1:22:28 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: knighthawk

Lemon is seriously deranged.


10 posted on 03/12/2020 1:26:40 AM PDT by Bullish (Covfefe Happens)
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To: MAGAthon

11 Mar: NBC: Biden campaign forms coronavirus advisory committee
by Adam Edelman
Joe Biden’s presidential campaign has formed a public health advisory committee to assist it with responding to the rapidly spreading coronavirus.
In a statement, the Biden campaign said it formed the body “to provide science-based, expert advice regarding steps the campaign should take to minimize health risks for the candidate, staff, and supporters.”...
The campaign said the committee would consist of six members — all doctors or former government officials — including Dr. Zeke Emanuel, a noted oncologist, the vice provost of global initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania and the brother of former Obama chief of staff, Rahm Emanual...
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/coronavirus-updates-live-u-s-cases-top-1-000-spread-n1155241/ncrd1155836

Zeke also worked with the Obama Admin. plus MSM covering the above so soberly are not making any reference to:

Oct 2014: TheAtlantic: Why I Hope to Die at 75
An argument that society and families — and you — will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly
Story by Ezekiel J. Emanuel
For many reasons, 75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop...
The situation becomes of even greater concern when we confront the most dreadful of all possibilities: living with dementia and other acquired mental disabilities...

What about simple stuff? Flu shots are out. Certainly if there were to be a flu pandemic, a younger person who has yet to live a complete life ought to get the vaccine or any antiviral drugs. A big challenge is antibiotics for pneumonia or skin and urinary infections...

Obviously, a do-not-resuscitate order and a complete advance directive indicating no ventilators, dialysis, surgery, antibiotics, or any other medication — nothing except palliative care even if I am conscious but not mentally competent — have been written and recorded...
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/

surely, given the legitimate questions about Biden’s mental health, and the fact Covid-19 appears to be more virulent towards an older demographic - and may required antibiotics, antivirals & ventilators - Zeke should recuse himself from the Advisory Committee!


11 posted on 03/12/2020 1:29:23 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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If you would like on or off a ping list for these reports, let me know. Thanks.

COVID-19 Update As of 03/11/2020 23:13 PST

These numbers include Mainland China and All Others globally

The good news this morning is that yesterday 03/11/20 mid afternoon PDT, Taiwan began reporting it's
own numbers again. Hong Kong and Macau's numbers are now reported with Mainland China's numbers.

I had trust in Hong Kong and Macau's numbers. Now, not so much.

Global Trends.

         Declared Cases
         .         Declared Deceased
         .         .       Declared Recovered
         .         .       .        Declared Resolved
Date     .         .       .        .        Cases Remining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03:    93,160   3,198   50,690   53,888   39,272
03/04:    95,425   3,286   53,399   56,685   38,740
03/05:    98,387   3,383   55,441   58,824   39,563 
03/06:   102,188   3,491   57,389   60,880   41,308
03/07:   106,165   3,977   59,965   63,559   42,606
03/08:   110,041   3,825   62,000   65,825   44,216
03/09:   114,452   4,026   64,169   68,195   46,257
03/10:   119,132   4,284   65,776   70,060   49,072
03/11:   126,258   4,638   68,284   72,922   53,336
Daily Global Growth

Numbers for the last nine days:

03/03:  2,223
03/04:  2,265
03/05:  2,962
03/06:  3,801
03/07:  3,977
03/08:  3,876
03/09:  4,411
03/10:  4,680
03/11:  7,126
Lets face it, the numbers of new reported cases is overwhelming at the moment.
We have new fertile ground, and it has basically four times the populace as the
original body of people of China. I can't predict how large the daily declarations
will be, but today's 7,000 plus cases was bad enough. Look at how much they have
grown in the last few days.

Today, the John's Hopkins University site reported out half the recovered numbers
by noon, and more by late afternoon PDT. It was reasoned, and for the first time
in ten days, appropriate.

The last column there shows the numbers of active cases. You will note how
they were dropping, then started increasing again. Here are the last nine days
drop & then growth numbers.

03/03:   -494 
03/04:   -532 
03/05:    823
03/06:  1,745 
03/07:  1,298
03/08:  1,610
03/09:  2,041
03/10:  2,815
03/11:  4,264
Observations:

As you can tell, the active cases are heating up. With this type of daily
growth, we will top the old peak of 58,809 active cases within thirty-six
hours. The previous peak was reached on 02/17/20, so we had 23 days to
enjoy lower numbers. Later today on the 12th, or possible in the early
morning hours of the 13th, we will be in uncharted terriotry again.

The mortality rate that went as low as 5.65% on the 7th, has now
grown back up to 6.36%. The majority of new cases are coming from outside
China. Again, in a few days, we should see the lag upswing in recovered
patients growing considerably. When that happens, it will take some of the
pressure off the growth in activecases, and the up-ticks in the mortality rate.

There was an uptick in resolved cases today. I hope we are beginning to see
ripe cases bearing recovery fruit. It will take a day or two to see if these
elevated numbers remain, or if that was a single day fluke.

COVID-19 cases outside China now make up 72.10% of global active cases.
The growth rate of active cases today was 5,608 active cases.

The numbers and percentages of resolved cases has continued to hold up pretty
well. On 03/07 at 18:03 PST the percentage peaked at 59.918% of all documented
cases having been resolved. As of the EOD 03/11, that percentage had slid to
57.756%. With these massive 'out of control' reports of new cases popping up,
it's a wonder we're still talking about over 55% of all declared cases having
been resolved.

These numbers address the cases outside of Mainland China.

Outside Mainland China Trends

        Declared Cases
        .        Declared Deceased
        .        .       Declared Recovered
        .        .       .       Declared Resolved
Date    .        .       .       .       Cases Remaining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03   12,890     217     837   1,054   11,836
03/04   15,015     279   1,222   1,501   13,514
03/05   17,832     341   1,685   2,026   15,806 
03/06   21,537     421   1,986   2,407   19,130
03/07   25,470     497   2,871   3,368   22,102
03/08   29,285     706   3,389   4,095   25,190
03/09   33,696     890   4,258   5,148   28,548
03/10   38,176   1,122   4,206   5,328   32,848
03/11   45,326   1,466   5,404   6,870   38,456
You'll see a dip in the declared recovered numbers on the 10th. I believe that
was related to Hong Kong, Macao, and Tiawan's numbers exiting into the Mainland
China Numbers. Today Taiwan started reporting out it's own numbers again. I
like that.

Daily Outsdie Mainland China Growth

Numbers for the last nine days:

03/03:  2,223
03/04:  2,265
03/05:  2,962
03/06:  3,801
03/07:  3,977
03/08:  3,876
03/09:  4,411
03/10:  4,480
03/11:  7,150
The last column there shows the numbers of active cases. Here are the last nine
days change in the amount of active cases outside Mainland China.

03/03:  2,015 
03/04:  1,678 
03/05:  2,292
03/06:  3,324
03/07:  2,972
03/08:  3,088
03/09:  3,358
03/10:  4,300
03/11:  5,608
The United States saw growth of 26.52% of new cases on 03/11. I would like to see
that slow down, but I'd like to see a lot of things I don't get to.

The Process

JHU says there are about 116 nations reporting right now. I'm tracking eight other
entities that have dropped off their reports. I'm not sure why this happens, but I
don't want to have the numbers I've captured, deleted. They'll remain in my database.

There have been various head-aches with JHU data reporting recently.

1. JHU was reporting out New Cases and Deaths early, then waiting ten hours to post
recovery numbers. That changed today, after ten days. A large number of recovery
numbers were released before noon PDT, and then again before 18:00. Much better.

2. JHU seems to have more than one person entering data. A nation will be entered
as follows. South Korea. An new tech comes in and sees numbers for the Republic
of South Korea and enters them under that name. Sometimes they have two listings for
one nation. Other times they'll delect the old name listing, enter the data under the
new name. The next day the other person comes in and balks at the change, and changes
it back. What a major pin. I'm deleting and adding in new entities constantly.

3. Today they cleaned up their files and deleted about five entities. I've been keeping
records for those entities for a few days or for up to a week or more. All of a sudden
the entity isn't on the list. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I have manipulate the data to post rigth under where I need to update. As I go along,
the data lines up. All of a sudden it doesn't. Entities are added, they disappear, or
they are relocated. I've come up with a pretty decent way to deal with this. Before I
had done so, it took me over an hour to process one update that generally takes just ten
minutes or so.

4. Then there is the issue of the three main numbers they post. Total Cases, Deaths, and
Recoveries. Lets say they update at 23:23. (Side note: They almost always post the
new report on the threes. That doesn't always happen, but you can look at the spread
sheet and see it happens what seems like 90% plus of the time.) JHU will put up a new
report. A few minutes after that report, they start updating the main numbers.

The problem is, I downlod the death numbers list. I download the recovery numbers list.
I also download the list of nations and their declared cases.

If I don't catch it just right, they update things before I've completed capturing the
data. And it only takes me a minute or two to do that.

As of today I am beginning to update from the lists. Nations, deaths, and recoveries.

In this manner, I can match up the data. I have to do that so that I can make sure I've
entered my data accurately. I use check sums, and have the computer add sums so that I
can check them manually.

When JHU, changes things, it causes my proces to go squirrely. And I have enough issues
with that on my own. LOL

Hot Spots

Let's look at how those numbers have changed over the last nine days.

                             South
           Italy     Iran    Korea   France    Spain  Germany   U.S.A.

03/03:
03/04:     3,089    2,322    5,756      285      222      262      159
03/05:     3,858    3,513    6,294      423      282      545      233
03/06:     4,636    4,747    6,767      653      401      670      338
03/07:     5,883    5,823    7,134      949      525      800      433
03/08:     7,375    6,566    7,382    1,209      673    1,040      554
03/09:     9,172    7,161    7,513    1,412    1,231    1,224      754
03/10:    10,149    8,042    7,755    1,784    1,695    1,565    1,037
03/11:    12.462    9,000    7,869    2,284    2,277    1,966    1,312
These seven nations/entities account for 82% of the global numbers outside China.
Just above you were able to review their growth progression.

Here's the amount and percentage for each, and the accumulative total
percent of all Outside Mainland China cases they account for.

12,462 27.49% Italy
 9,000 19.86% Iran
 7,869 17.36% South Korea
 2,284 05.04% France
 2,277 05.02% Spain
 1,966 04.34% Germany
 1,312 02.89% the USA
-------------
       82.00% of all cases outside of China...
This explains how many people there are to one case in these entities:

Globally      :  145,680
Mainland China:   93,145
Outside China :  202,049
The U. S. A.  :  261,599
Good night...

All data below sourced from Johns Hopkins University: LINK

I have been downloading three to five reports per day since 01/27. I have then
worked up numbers that should give a very good representation of numbers that
have been provided to the public via that site.

In my spreadsheet linked below, you'll find global numbers including China. You
will find a separate section addressing just the Outside China figures. Then
there is now also a section with just the United States stats in there. There
are also a lot of special stats broken out for you to browse. The history of
115 nations and their numbers from day one of their reporting.

You're welcome to it.

COVID-19 Spreadsheet using JHU data

File XLSX

File XLS

I now have an XLS file again, but it is for viewing only. I had to do a wrap-
around to get it to fit in the XLS file format. On the top right you will see
nations 1-70 listed. I cut and pasted nations 71-115 under them. You'll
see what I mean.

12 posted on 03/12/2020 1:45:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Beware Hillary Clinton and the 25th Amendment.)
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To: knighthawk

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13 posted on 03/12/2020 2:03:02 AM PDT by sauropod (David Horowitz: “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”)
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To: knighthawk

Wow! I guess Kaysuck finally realized there is no future in never-Trumpism. I wonder if this means Jonah Goldberg will be surrendering soon???


14 posted on 03/12/2020 2:35:12 AM PDT by rhinohunter (I have nothing but disdain for liberals. Their tears fill me with delight...)
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To: knighthawk

The anti-Trump crowd wouldn’t be happy even if he died. They’d complain that it didn’t happen sooner and in a more painful way.

Fake media. Fake Congress. Fake Justice. Alternate Universe?


15 posted on 03/12/2020 2:46:27 AM PDT by NTHockey (R yRules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: MAGAthon

The left is in panDEMonium.


16 posted on 03/12/2020 3:00:26 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Great work on a daunting task. Thanks for sharing. I would love to be on the list.
It’s going to take some time looking at those numbers to puzzle out even some of the implications.
The percentage increase by country is fascinating. There seems to be groups with roughly similar growth perhaps based on where in the life cycle of COVID-19 infection they are.


17 posted on 03/12/2020 3:10:27 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

LOL!! May the AIDS be with him!!


18 posted on 03/12/2020 3:23:00 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Bullish

AIDS Dementia!!


19 posted on 03/12/2020 3:23:41 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: LegendHasIt

” between Lemon and Kasich is which one of them hates Trump more”

Romney?


20 posted on 03/12/2020 3:38:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Slo-Joe Biden... puts the Dem in Dementia.)
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