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The Official Coronavirus Numbers Are Wrong, and Everyone Knows It
The Atlantic ^ | March 3, 2020 | alexis madrigal

Posted on 03/06/2020 9:14:39 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety

Because the U.S. data on coronavirus infections are so deeply flawed, the quantification of the outbreak obscures more than it illuminates.

(Excerpt) Read more at amp.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corona; covid19
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The best article I have read about how misleading the current use of death rate statics is. Well worth the read as it corrects the deeply flawed logic of all the people spouting off about death rates and infection rates.

Trump must have read this article. It aligns with his recent remarks.

1 posted on 03/06/2020 9:14:39 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

An idea not without merit.


2 posted on 03/06/2020 9:21:00 AM PST by griffin
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To: FreedomNotSafety

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3 posted on 03/06/2020 9:21:58 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: FreedomNotSafety

I’m not and never have been a hand-shaker. I don’t see the point of shaking someone’s hand. Common sense also tells me to avoid people who are coughing or blowing their noses as well as crowded, closed-in spaces. Especially in the winter months.


4 posted on 03/06/2020 9:27:57 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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How many cases have to be out there to turn 3,454 deaths into a less than 1% mortality rate?


5 posted on 03/06/2020 9:28:30 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Is this article saying that the contagion is far wider than they say? But we can’t quantify the number of cases because of low levels of testing? And that the mortality rate is therefore very low in the US because we do have an idea of the number of dead, but not the number of infected?

Or am I mis-reading?


6 posted on 03/06/2020 9:28:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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The issue here is that it may finally force people worldwide to change their cultural norms to cut down on easily spreading the disease.
7 posted on 03/06/2020 9:28:35 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: lakecumberlandvet

That is nice. Did you read the article? It is about the use of misleading statistics.


8 posted on 03/06/2020 9:29:39 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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If the president thought the CDC's numbers were "all wrong" then he wouldn't link the CDC website to the front page of WhiteHouse.gov.

Here's the link:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

 

9 posted on 03/06/2020 9:31:21 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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How many cases have to be out there to turn 3,454 deaths into a less than 1% mortality rate?


345,401.
7 Million to make it like a typical flu.


10 posted on 03/06/2020 9:31:54 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: RayChuang88

The issue addressed by the article is that we do not have the data to calculate meaningful statistics. It has nothing to do with cultural norms. Unless you count hysteria as a cultural norm.


11 posted on 03/06/2020 9:31:56 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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The Atlantic is filled with leftist drivel and anti Trump hatred. Every article is filled with bias. Not a believable source.


12 posted on 03/06/2020 9:32:41 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: RayChuang88

As I understand, 14 people in the US have died. Twelve of them are in Washington state, ten of which came from the Life Site care center.

So doesn’t that mean, discounting Life Site, that a total of four people in this country have died from coronavirus?


13 posted on 03/06/2020 9:32:49 AM PST by angry elephant (My MAGA cap is from a rally in Washingon state in May 2016)
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To: lepton

A typical flu is measured over how many months?


14 posted on 03/06/2020 9:34:02 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Towering intellect, Alexis Madrigal.

15 posted on 03/06/2020 9:34:35 AM PST by simpson96
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Unless you count hysteria as a cultural norm.

No question that it is. My surprise is that it is so prevalent on FRee Republic.

16 posted on 03/06/2020 9:34:36 AM PST by abb
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The problem with this article is that it does not take into account travelers that had been to China returned before the virus had exposed itself. In other words they were the first to become infected, but were unaware, and passed it to others in their journeys into the public. The other option may be that there are some who become infected yet never exhibit the symptoms but do spread it to others upon their return.

People with extra strong immune systems may not even know they were infected. Some may think they had a flu virus because they never needed treatment but got better. But since they had the virus they were able to spread it.

While I personally think the numbers are inaccurate, the fact that China was the hardest hit points to that country as the definite origin of the virus.

17 posted on 03/06/2020 9:35:27 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: ClearCase_guy

This may help answer your question. From the article:

“ The point is that every country’s numbers are the result of a specific set of testing and accounting regimes. Everyone is cooking the data, one way or another. ”


18 posted on 03/06/2020 9:36:34 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: ClearCase_guy

He seems to want to fan the flames of alarm rather than quell it, although he did indeed mention that possibility
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That uncertainty is always present because of the same issue... if it’s not alarming enough, said event will not be reported.

But author instead seems intent on putting everyone on high alert and that this might be some kind of major negligence.


19 posted on 03/06/2020 9:38:35 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: proust

A typical flu is measured over how many months?


Are you asserting COVID is stopped?

It would take that many undetected cases TODAY to make the death rate like the flu, though right now, neither is done this year.


20 posted on 03/06/2020 9:38:42 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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