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Gay Marriage Was Always Leading To Polygamy
The Federalist ^ | February 21, 2020 | David Marcus

Posted on 02/21/2020 10:06:14 AM PST by Heartlander

Gay Marriage Was Always Leading To Polygamy

The Utah state Senate voted this week unanimously to decriminalize polygamy. It is a development every social conservative saw coming.
February 21, 2020 By

The Utah state Senate this week unanimously voted to decriminalize polygamy, knocking it down from a felony to a minor civil infraction. Though not quite legal yet, the practice of having multiple spouses is well on its way there, and let’s face it, now that marriage has already been redefined to suit the nature of our times, what could possibly stand in the way of fully legal and recognized polygamous unions?

This, of course, is something we were promised would never happen when gay marriage became a constitutional right. It’s completely different, we were told. Writing in Politico in 2015, Jonathan Rauch said, “There might conceivably (although not likely) be a case for taking the trouble to do all that messy and confusing rewiring if the moral claim of polygamy were remotely as strong as to the moral claim of gay marriage. But it is not.”

Cathy Young, writing in Time Magazine, had this to say the very same day: “Will such an evolution happen? It would likely be a much tougher uphill battle, not least because ‘I want to make a full commitment to the person I love’ is a far more sympathetic claim than ‘my needs are unfulfilled in a sexually exclusive relationship.’”

There are many more examples, and what was clear then and is playing out now is that these arguments suggesting gay marriage would not lead to polygamy simply make no sense. Just like the fallacious claims that tearing down Confederate monuments would not lead to attacks on George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, the plain logic of gay marriage always pointed in the direction of polygamy.

The reason polygamy became inevitable is that once untethered from the concept of man and wife, there is simply no basis for constraining marriage to two people. Both Rauch and Young made moral claims in their arguments as to why polygamy would not flow from gay marriage. But upon what basis? How is a moral argument against polygamy any different from a moral argument against gay marriage?

Courts and legislatures are not tasked with defining morality; they are tasked with making and deciding upon laws that treat people with different moral outlooks equally. Does the possibility of abuse exist within polygamous marriages? Sure. But it also exists within straight and gay marriages. Now that the concept of marriage has been turned into a malleable plastic, how can critics of polygamy who championed gay marriage say with a straight face that consenting adults should be barred from the practice?

Social progressivism has left us after the past two decades in a place where marriage is whatever we want it to be, gender is whatever we want it to be, and even history is whatever we think we need it to be to solve today’s problems. All is relativism. In the digital age, nothing is written in stone. It can all be cut, copied, and pasted; it can all be rewritten, rewired, recoded.

There is, in all likelihood, no way back around this track. Quite soon, our kids will have sleepovers with a friend who has a dad, and mom, and mom, and mom. And it is something we will accept, just as we have accepted gay marriage. So rather than wistfully wishing to turn back the clock, we can at least be proactive in thinking through the implications of abandoning historical definitions of institutions and identities.

The slippery slopes are real. They are not fabricated conspiracy theories spun by bigoted conservatives; they are the obvious fallout of decisions we make as a society and nation. For all intents and purposes, polygamy is now legal in the United States. This proves yet again that any time a progressive utters the phrase, “That will never happen,” you should sprint to your bookie and put down a good chunk of change that it will.

The only real option for social conservatives now is to put forth a positive case for their ideas. If we believe a porn-saturated world in which gender is meaningless and God is dead is not in the best interest of the country, then we must make a convincing case. But we must also be wary of the blessings of liberty, careful as we tug on threads of the social fabric. The tapestry is fragile, and once it unravels, it is likely gone forever.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: polygamy
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1 posted on 02/21/2020 10:06:14 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

Mormon harems??


2 posted on 02/21/2020 10:07:49 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Heartlander

Why is it that gay marriage is portrayed by so many as somehow better than polygamy?


3 posted on 02/21/2020 10:08:40 AM PST by Varda
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To: Heartlander

I remember when people mocked Rick Santorum for linking approval of gay marriage to future acceptance of polygamy.

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-xpm-2012-jan-06-la-pn-santorum-jeered-after-comparing-gay-marriage-to-polygamy-20120106-story.html

https://thinkprogress.org/why-rick-santorums-argument-about-same-sex-marriage-leading-to-polygamy-is-so-wrong-70abbe54b82f/


4 posted on 02/21/2020 10:08:49 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Heartlander

maybe if all the gay men stayed together in a bunch of houses, they wouldn’t have to recruit young boys.


5 posted on 02/21/2020 10:10:02 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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To: Heartlander

...and trans/gender madness and drag queen story hour, and...


6 posted on 02/21/2020 10:11:06 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: Heartlander

Who was the first Gov. to change the definition of marriage?

MITT ROMNEY! MORMON!


7 posted on 02/21/2020 10:11:13 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Heartlander

well, the Utah State Senate just passed a polygamy (plural marriage) decriminalization bill, by a vote of 29 to Zero.
It is now sent to the Utah State House of Representatives.
For your info.
Should you want a few more Mother-in-Laws, now may be a great time to move to Utah!


8 posted on 02/21/2020 10:14:27 AM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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To: Heartlander

I don’t know how people didn’t see this.

We have the legal precedent that basically says “if people love each other, they can get married”.

That opens the door VERY wide. No reason to block polygamy. No reason to block incest. People are going to figure out tax implications and have all sorts of marriages.

On what legal basis can people now stand, in their efforts to block it? I see none.


9 posted on 02/21/2020 10:17:08 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Heartlander

“Quite soon, our kids will have sleepovers with a friend who has a dad, and mom, and mom, and mom.”

Twenty years ago, my kid went to school with a couple kids who were three months apart in age, had the same father, different mothers and all four lived in the same home.


10 posted on 02/21/2020 10:21:07 AM PST by Meatspace
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think everyone did. Our “elites” just don’t care what people think as what happened after the California vote against gay marriage showed.


11 posted on 02/21/2020 10:21:17 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: ClearCase_guy

The HIV - AIDS “scourge” in the LGBTQMOUSE community was what started all this mess.


12 posted on 02/21/2020 10:22:11 AM PST by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: Varda

Good point


13 posted on 02/21/2020 10:22:41 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Heartlander

In the first season of the HBO series Big Love (2006), the prophet leader of the Juniper Creek used gay marriage as justification for polygamy.


14 posted on 02/21/2020 10:23:05 AM PST by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: Heartlander

Just one more flush of the toilet...


15 posted on 02/21/2020 10:24:07 AM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Varda
Why is it that gay marriage is portrayed by so many as somehow better than polygamy?

Exactly. It’s backwards. I couldn’t care less about polygamy. Gay marriage is so much worse for society

16 posted on 02/21/2020 10:24:38 AM PST by southern rock
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To: Heartlander

The two things go hand in hand.

Marry off the queers and then the Alpha Mormon has extra wimmen for himself.

It’s a return to barbarism as the generations of the 19th century understood perfectly: Christian civilization had rejected animalistic polygamy in favor of stable monogamous society centuries earlier and the test of time showed that it worked.

The Mormon males interested in having more women then the next guy all sneer at “gentiles” who reject this. They see themselves as Big Men who deserve the women whatever way they can get them. The more centralist Mormon men along the Wasatch Front and in far off Mesa and Tempe are monogamous but feel about the same way: they realize that the church only rejected polygamy for American political reasons. They’d love to have two or three more. Lotsa houses in South Sandy and in the Heber Valley already set up for that.

Nothing but a return to 4th century BC barbarism that the Jewish tribes rejected even earlier. No society survives such a convention. The freaks like Warren Jeffs show the truth of that.

Maybe you don’t want to put humans in jail cells for it, but there is absolutely no reason to codify it as an acceptable convention. Societies die because of it.


17 posted on 02/21/2020 10:26:16 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Heartlander

The steady drip, drip, drip of perversion ...


18 posted on 02/21/2020 10:29:08 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, it was the Massachusetts Supreme Court which imposed homosexual marriage on Massachusetts. If you are saying Mitt Romney didn’t enact massive resistance to the court order you are correct. But it seems a stretch to say he brought homosexual marriage to Massachusetts. It’s not like it was part of his legislative agenda.


19 posted on 02/21/2020 10:29:11 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: southern rock

That’s how I see it. Polygamy may not be optimal but it doesn’t harm children or society. “Gay marriage” on the other hand is a mockery of marriage.


20 posted on 02/21/2020 10:29:18 AM PST by Varda
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