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Coronavirus worse than reported
Fox News ^ | February 16, 2020 | Lew Olowski

Posted on 02/16/2020 5:26:36 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

China’s novel coronavirus, COVID-19, has killed and infected more people than officially reported. In one day, total reported infections and deaths increased 44% and 23%, respectively...merely because “the government changed the criteria by which it tracks confirmed cases.”

The official tally has been an underestimate and is still catching up to reality. About 99% of the cases have been reported in China.

...before the adjustment, circumstances suggested weeks ago that “the outbreak is spreading far beyond the official count of cases.” Many causes contribute to this undercounting.

  1. the diagnostic test for COVID-19 may be only 30-40% accurate.
  2. the diagnostic test is scarce. Tests are rationed for the most obviously symptomatic patients. But carriers can be asymptomatic. And they can be contagious before showing signs of infection.
  3. Chinese hospitals have been overwhelmed with patients; only those who obtained medical treatment and also tested positive for the virus were included in the official tally.
  4. resources and public attention have concentrated on Wuhan, a city of 11 million. Tens of millions more live in Wuhan’s surrounding province, Hubei, which is less equipped with healthcare services. To the extent uncounted cases exist in Wuhan, more uncounted cases exist in Wuhan’s exurbs.
  5. politics also prevents an accurate appraisal. China’s communist government is a totalitarian, one-party state.
The severity of the Chinese government’s actual response to COVID-19 is a more reliable indicator than the disease’s publicly acknowledged tally. While admitting to just 17 deaths from the virus, the party quarantined a region of about 60 million people. This decision guaranteed multibillion-dollar economic losses.

It is inconceivable that the Chinese government would wilfully suffer such a cost for the sake of a few dozen — or even a few hundred — lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; asia; china; chinavirus; chinavirusinfo; coronavirus; covid19; disease; wuhanflu
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

750,000,000 now under some sort of lock down. maybe 100,000 dead in wuhan

fox is not getting the whole story either - 99% of cases are in china, but no way china has reported 99% of their cases.

more indications via private email that is escaped bio weapon

dont shoot the messenger please


21 posted on 02/16/2020 6:37:49 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Moonman62
> People should know that Fox has this labelled as an opinion article. The author isn’t a health professional.

It wasn't a health article. It was a political and economic assessment. In fact, had that same article been written by a "health professional" I would have discounted it more, not less.

I have every reason to believe (my own opinion) that the author is absolutely correct.

Do you disagree with the article and its conclusion that the situation in China is worse than the Chicoms admit?

22 posted on 02/16/2020 6:38:20 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What’s gonna get us first - this virus or Klimate Change?


23 posted on 02/16/2020 6:39:35 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Boomer
All medications, medical supplies and food from China should be irradiated before POS if not already part of safe practice for the past few decades.

Much of the US medical supplies have been irradiated since the '90 's that I know of.

24 posted on 02/16/2020 6:48:43 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Need to view these articles not through the lens of the smarties here on FR, but of the common man (nobody here is “common”).”

Agree. It’s easy to forget that the rest of the world is watching Nascar and having BBQs while we are drinking up the news. Last week, Rush set off a Leftist firestorm by saying that Mayor Pete and his partner ‘kissing’ on a national stage might not go over too well with middle America. I speculated that many people wouldn’t know Pete’s lifestyle choice and would not be told, by the media. A lady here replied that her husband had no idea of his lifestyle choice...amazing.

As to Coronavirus, starting this week, people will start seeing empty spaces on store shelves, and the inability to replace their phones. They’ll ask what’s up, and that will be the FIRST TIME they even find out that China is having problems, much less massive problems. And they’ll still have no clue as to what that means for us and the rest of the West (pretty much the same for most here, too, in that regard). But everyone will come up to speed quickly...they’ll have no choice.


25 posted on 02/16/2020 6:49:36 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

https://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic-index/chongqing-traffic


26 posted on 02/16/2020 6:56:47 PM PST by gasport (The dung beetle should be the symbol of the Democrat Party)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Never trust a commìe.


27 posted on 02/16/2020 7:02:23 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: gasport

Thanks, there was a Zero Hedge article that had the now non-existent traffic in China. The SCARY PLOT was a JP Morgan chart on coal consumption, pretty much all used to generate power. The consumption dropped 42% for the Lunar New Year...just as it did last year. What changed was that last year, that 42% was recovered the following week - but this year, 2 weeks out and counting, NO CHANGE, none of the 42% has come back, and if anything, consumption has even dropped a bit.

It’s bad there, but since I’m not a power company executive, I’m not permitted to comment on it (according to some people here), so I won’t.


28 posted on 02/16/2020 7:07:44 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: PIF

people getting it twice die of heart attacksw

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/hubei-doctors-warn-even-deadlier-coronavirus-reinfection-causing-sudden-heart-attacks


29 posted on 02/16/2020 7:12:37 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It would be nice if we could use it to stop all imports from China.


30 posted on 02/16/2020 7:16:49 PM PST by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: CincyRichieRich

“That is a problem right there. Under estimating your enemy’s deviousness.”

The overreaction may be political —Hong Kong may have shaken the CCP ever more than we suspect and may have been spreading — as much as it is health related. Time will tell if they are scared crazy about a plague or are just Obama’ing and refusing a good crisis go to waste.


31 posted on 02/16/2020 7:19:38 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Deaf Smith

Much of the US medical supplies have been irradiated since the ‘90 ‘s that I know of.


What about medical stuff on sale at Walmart? Or non-medical stuff, tools, appliances, trinkets. May be like smallpox blankets. Too much trust, not enough verification.


32 posted on 02/16/2020 7:19:59 PM PST by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: minnesota_bound

I cannot believe the Chinese communists would lie to us.....


Telling falsehoods to their own people is even worse. You would think the people would vote them out of power.


33 posted on 02/16/2020 7:20:50 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: BobL

42% drop in power consumption translates to a 42% drop in production. Talking heads suggesting China will go from 6% growth to 5% growth. I’d put more weight on coal shipments, and on factories all over the world shutting down temporarily because no parts, no finished product.

Personally, I am leaning towards this being U.S. intelligence “services” 7th way from Sunday to get back at President Trump. Wuhan Institute of Virology accident is the other plausible possibility.


34 posted on 02/16/2020 7:25:42 PM PST by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: RummyChick

Excellent article!

Also provides a possible explanation as to why (DNA) this virus seems to exclusively attach Asians.


35 posted on 02/16/2020 7:31:11 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: LeonardFMason
No more flights from CHINA!

Should have been stopped a month ago. Not just stopping some from the hardest hit areas; not just "monitoring" people getting off in 11 airports in the US (that is complete BS). We really screwed the pooch on this one.

36 posted on 02/16/2020 7:32:36 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SoConPubbie

here is one asian’s experience with it.HIV drug helped him
https://time.com/5783838/coronavirus-symptoms-wuhan-survivor/?xid=tcosh

trying to think what purpose this has as a bioweapon if it wipes out their own people. Maybe they were trying to find the vaccine that saves them but kills off Caucasians...but it escaped into the wild by accident


37 posted on 02/16/2020 7:33:35 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Boomer

That is what perhaps scares me the most. Even basics like ibuprofen and acetaminophen are all from China! The numbers are really awful - something like 80% of all manufactured drugs from China BUT something like 95% of all precursor materials used to manufacture drugs come from China.

We could be REALLY REALLY screwed here.


38 posted on 02/16/2020 7:34:06 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
This reporting is nothing comapred to the retraction and subsequent big lie the government told us about Apophis...

IMHO, the death rate for Apophis's first arrival will dwarf anything the beer-needing-a-slice virus will cause...

39 posted on 02/16/2020 7:38:45 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: BobL

Chinese emissions have long been known to trigger rainy weekends in the North East US...week after week, month after month.

We have had beautiful weekends since early December.


40 posted on 02/16/2020 7:38:59 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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