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Coronavirus Live Thread 2/12 to 2/13 (yikes)
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Posted on 02/12/2020 3:50:03 PM PST by janetjanet998

14,800 new cases and 242 new deaths

they changed the way they classified cases


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; kungflu
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To: TigerClaws

Prayers up. That is horrible.


41 posted on 02/12/2020 4:10:42 PM PST by CJ Wolf ( #wwg1wga)
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To: BobL

” ramping up their numbers towards reality,”

Yep, and to satisfy investors, buyers too.


42 posted on 02/12/2020 4:11:11 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: janetjanet998; DoughtyOne; All

From prior thread (great table but probably not updated yet):

- - - -

DoughtyOne has made up a great Excel file to track the data we do have. Y’all can add your own uncertainty factors if you wish.

http://www.hotr.us/drop/coronavirusjhufile.xlsx

It’s likely just my machine, but when I right-clicked on the original hot-link & tried to open it, IE tried to open it as a .htm file and I got gibberish. (I don’t have a MS spreadsheet program on this machine.) But I instead saved the .htm file and opened it with Libre Office Portable, which worked fine.

As I replied to D1, so far, the spread into countries outside of China, which data I tend to believe, seems well controlled at this point - remarkably so, in fact. The question is whether a “breakout” somewhere will occur. If the Ro value is as high as some suggest, I don’t see how a breakout will not occur. We shall see.

I think I need 3 monitors...


43 posted on 02/12/2020 4:11:43 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Freedom56v2

“And some here said numbers going down...”

Some people HERE take the Communist Chinese at their word, and some of us do not.


44 posted on 02/12/2020 4:12:10 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Black Agnes

Nice.

R0 of 5 or 6.


Is that the official RO? I was drawing a crude graph to show people using RO of 2 stating to them it was 2.5


45 posted on 02/12/2020 4:12:33 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2

“January 17 it was 40 cases and 2 deaths...I have been watching the growth.”

Might you have the numbers for Jan 18-21, so I don’t have to bother researching it? I suspect something like 400 infected by Jan 21.

Thanks!


46 posted on 02/12/2020 4:14:16 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Critical cases jumped too, and are still at 16% of active cases.

Deaths are still at 19% of resolved cases. I still think this might have a fatality rate like SARS of 9-10%.

But outside of China is thankfully proving me wrong. Unless the governments close to China are hiding information too.


47 posted on 02/12/2020 4:14:40 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: All

1478 new cases and 107 deaths the “old way”


48 posted on 02/12/2020 4:15:13 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: Black Agnes

The cruise ship is a real potential canary in the coal mine.

There is a chance that it might have been a mild form that came aboard, but it certainly seems to have spread rapidly.


49 posted on 02/12/2020 4:15:23 PM PST by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: DannyTN

I have wondered about NK. This gets loose there it will be unbelievably lethal.


50 posted on 02/12/2020 4:17:19 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: janetjanet998

https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/2020/02/12/shelby-co-residents-currently-being-monitored-after-travel-china-coronavirus/
20 Shelby Co. residents currently being monitored for Coronavirus after traveling to China

I just saw this news on NBC channel 4 out of Nashville, the news is from a station out of Memphis, I made a post for it, you should see it eventually in the Coronavirus Bring out your dead list.


51 posted on 02/12/2020 4:17:27 PM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

IF it gets loose in NK???

I think we’ve read that it has.


52 posted on 02/12/2020 4:18:02 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Paul R.

Link to D1’s original post w/ table (link).

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3815719/posts?page=72#72


53 posted on 02/12/2020 4:18:10 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Black Agnes

I believe the Asian markets are trending up. It seems the market’s major concern is the disruption of supply chains not the contagion itself. Regardless of what is or isn’t happening in China, if caronavirus was spreading here as in China we’d have hundreds if not thousands of cases. I can’t explain it.


54 posted on 02/12/2020 4:18:53 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: proust

“ahh the “good old days.””

I’ve been thinking that too, for the past couple of weeks. Much like 9/11, we’ll have memories of an innocent time, in this case when we could board ships with thousands of people for weeks at a time, or airplanes for 12 to 18 hours packed like sardines...maybe not enjoying it, but not feeling like we were putting our lives in danger.

Now it’s different. Mark today, with these numbers, as when the ‘innocence of the West’ ended.


55 posted on 02/12/2020 4:20:02 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Black Agnes

56 posted on 02/12/2020 4:20:49 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Jane Long

I say that as, well, we know it has, but we aren’t going to get news out of NK. China is at least being partially transparent.


57 posted on 02/12/2020 4:20:58 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Ah, in NK, just get out the AA guns and line up all suspected cases. This helps solve food shortages and, see, no virus here!


58 posted on 02/12/2020 4:22:31 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: Paul R.

“Or should I say COVID-19 is on top of the normally existing health care burden...”

I’ve pointed out similar - as virtually anyone in who’s tried going to an ER in a city, it’s not like there are ER’s and ICU’s sitting empty waiting for Coronavirus.

To put it another way, they have plenty to do to keep busy, and even a MARGINAL increase in demand will break our system, just as happened in China.


59 posted on 02/12/2020 4:23:31 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: TomGuy

Perhaps the virus has mutated and weakened; who knows?
Also, Viruses don’t like sunlight, heat or humidity and they weaken or are killed.


60 posted on 02/12/2020 4:23:52 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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