Posted on 02/12/2020 3:50:03 PM PST by janetjanet998
14,800 new cases and 242 new deaths
they changed the way they classified cases
“I think a large bag of rice, dried pasta, and some flavoring are a great investment.”
I’m not much of a carb man, to say the least. But I do have a doomsday qualifier - when things get really bad, then yes, you eat carbs if nothing else is easy to obtain, and yes, they’re far cheaper than any other food (as far as cost per calorie). But you still need some meat for the long-term, or you’ll get killed on nutrition. So do look into options there (and there are many).
A suggestion in the face of carbmania. Eat once a day. That way your pancreas can rest and recover. It won’t be as harsh on your metabolism that way.
LOL, yea I do that. It does help a lot!
It’s not the keto stuff. And eating carbs, even once a day, will probably trigger HUNGER pangs (thats one thing I like about low carb/keto, no hunger pangs after the first week or so) but at least you won’t be a complete mess when you can eat ‘real’ food again.
I have meat, veggies and fruit in the freezer. Added some frozen juice. The rice and pasta are cheap simple insurance that don’t require refrigeration - though they do require water.
Good points!
“The rice and pasta are cheap simple insurance that don’t require refrigeration - though they do require water.”
I’m figuring that utilities will be the last to go in this scenario, as they require relatively few workers...so hopefully enough will be available to do that work. And it does look like that part of their society in China is still holding up.
container, mop or spray thingy, black plastic bag, more chiefs than indians. From that, I’d say a lot of supervision of a few disinfecting the rooms of the hospitalized
That sounds awful, but, it might be the humane thing to do, under the circumstances. For a pig, dying slowly of swine flu has to be pretty awful. Better to go out the ISIS way?
Camp stoves are preppy but nobody thinks crockpots are preppy. ( but they are! low power use, one dish to wash, cooks anything).
Prepping isn’t prepping without a hot hottub, tho (this is America after all and prepping is hard work). Like this one, which works without electricity and is sooo easy to copy:
Yea, what’s unique about this “It event” (a little paranoid prepper lingo, for those of you in Rio Linda) is that utilities should continue right through...so expecting to use a crackpot does make sense, at least to me.
I don’t think it’s to make the disease spread - it’s because we are a free society with a civil rights lawyer behind every tree. So unless people violate self-quarantine, there’s no reason to put a cruiser against their front door.
The evacuees were a different story - 14 days ago, they were our first chance to actually look at the disease/ And, since we didn’t know, at the first flight, what we were dealing with, and neither did the rescued (a majority of whom were govt employees), it was prudent to quarantine them within minutes’ travel of critical care facilities.
As 14 days ticked off, and the March and initial Travis folks remained disease-free (also the Brits - might have been released today?) there was some confidence that self-quarantine was the right approach. Crap data from China was useless and spotty. But in the past 5 days, there’s evidence of the last two rescue flights having asymptomatic turning symptomatic.
So now it’s back to the drawing board, which may (should?) change how we quarantine incoming civilians and/or deal with the me-me-me’s refusing. (we had one of those at March, prompting that state health dept detainment order).
As it stands, any citizen returning from China is supposed to self-quarantine for 14 days and call ahead to a hospital, etc., and not just show up. I guess we rely too much on people possessing good ethics that self-motivate people to care about one’s countrymen and to not want to make others sick from our own actions.
But forced quarantine or quarantine of an entire household of civilians is going to be a whole lot more complicated legally speaking. And who pays? It will likely be the nurses unions who tip the scales to public acceptance of tighter controls. Life versus liberty.
It’s not like we haven’t quarantined before.
We did it plenty in the 1800’s and early 1900’s.
oh I know that. But in the 1800s and 1900s we didn’t have civil rights attorneys behind every tree and quarantines were very local. I just can’t see a Beijing lockdown happening here with any effectiveness with our current generation of me-again Tide Pod eaters. It works in China because a) government is parent, citizen is child and child must obey parent; 2) they know they’ll disappear if parent is displeased. In America, parent displeasure is more often met with an ‘eh’.
Run on groceries may never happen if rationing under guard suddenly is forced.
China update/China data: As of Feb 11, there are 16,067 suspected cases available A total of 451,462 contacts were traced and 185037 are under medical observation.
On Feb 11, the number of severe cases in 12 provinces decreased by 44 and the number of severe cases in 8 provinces, including Hubai, increased by 915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMMCHbYxW8A
(the contacts, under supervision and severe case #’s remained the same for the 12th)
I’m not letting a crackpot within 5 miles of my crockpot!
2012 study shows lisinopril or other angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors might work better than losartan or other angiotensin receptor blockers.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22786934/
Too tired right now to look for the other study that might have partly contradicted this.
One gotcha is that lisinopril often makes patients cough — not what you want when worried about virus.
so we’d have to limit food to canned goods?
you bring up a good point - the interiors of buildings etc.
Lesson to humanity, don’t put 80 million people in high density high rises
“Run on groceries may never happen if rationing under guard suddenly is forced.”
...may be the case, but it still won’t be fun having to buy stuff under wartime rules.
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