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Coronavirus Live Thread 2/12 to 2/13 (yikes)
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Posted on 02/12/2020 3:50:03 PM PST by janetjanet998

14,800 new cases and 242 new deaths

they changed the way they classified cases


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; kungflu
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To: Black Agnes; bgill

Yes...per presser...these are ppl who were flown in, from China, to Lackland AFB.

Not sure if the entire group was required to stay at same Q facility, as there’s also been mentioned that there’s another group, in SanAnt, who were self-q’ing.

bgill may remember more details, about the two groups...pinging her.


341 posted on 02/13/2020 9:21:45 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Black Agnes

Ping to 327


342 posted on 02/13/2020 9:25:14 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: BobL

Ok, I’ve got to know what is Stage 2? Just type it in tiny font to whisper it.


343 posted on 02/13/2020 9:25:45 AM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

People don’t believe me when I say they want this to spread.


344 posted on 02/13/2020 9:26:54 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Jane Long

Yep. It was total hogwash.


345 posted on 02/13/2020 9:38:14 AM PST by bgill
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To: LilFarmer

Did someone blowup the lab?


346 posted on 02/13/2020 9:39:34 AM PST by Captain7seas (UN EXIT!)
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To: Jane Long

I’d like to know if he is an American citizen or just has “American connections” since he came solo. Ok, so he may have traveled to China alone and his family is here. Sorry, I just don’t trust we aren’t bringing in foreigners who have the right connection$ to get out of China.


347 posted on 02/13/2020 9:43:01 AM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

Also .... WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO’VE BEEN RELEASED, confirmed okay, etc???


348 posted on 02/13/2020 9:54:25 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Jane Long; Black Agnes

Remember this? Hope someone called Vancouver and Omaha. Way to spread it around willy nilly.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/american-coronavirus-evacuees-california-canada-symptoms

“Two State Department-chartered flights carrying additional American evacuees from Wuhan, China — the epicenter of the deadly coronavirus outbreak — were held in Vancouver, Canada and Travis Air Force Base in California due to “two persons of interest,” one on each plane. The passengers showed symptoms of coronavirus, which include fever, shortness of breath, and a cough, two U.S. officials close to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told Fox News... The plane is then slated to leave Lackland for Nebraska to drop off the remaining passengers at Eppley Airfield in Omaha.”


349 posted on 02/13/2020 9:56:10 AM PST by bgill
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To: Jane Long

Million dollar question.


350 posted on 02/13/2020 9:56:59 AM PST by riri
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To: Freedom56v2

One of the tremendous oddities appears to be the very high fatality rate in Hubei (~30%), but the much, much lower rates elsewhere (only 60 deaths worldwide, compared to about 2900 reported resolved cases).

It is SO discordant and remains so, that one wonders if something else is going on in Hubei - a different disease, or a purge of some sort. Yes, the health care system in Wuhan had collapsed, but there are many lesser health-care systems outside of China, and they don’t appear to be having those issues either.


351 posted on 02/13/2020 9:57:11 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: BobL

A city nearby had a bad ice-storm a few months ago, and it completely jammed up not only all available beds at a major hospital, but every observation room as well (this hospital has wings of rooms on the ground floor as observation rooms).


352 posted on 02/13/2020 10:05:46 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

The chicom leadership has to show that it’s limited the deaths to Hubei province. If they showed death rates equivalent to Hubei province in other provinces it would cause people to question whether or not CCP had things under control.

I take it on faith that the other provinces likely have a death rate similar to Hubei until proven otherwise.


353 posted on 02/13/2020 10:07:18 AM PST by Black Agnes
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ra Cook
@saraecook
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Larry Kudlow tells
@kathrynw5
that the US is “very disappointed” that China hasn’t accepted America’s offer to send experts help with Coronavirus.

He adds: “We thought there was going to be more transparency.”


354 posted on 02/13/2020 10:10:59 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

That fits with some videos that came out (especially Chen, who is one of the citizen reporters who have “disappeared” like FengBin), they had chest CTs but no tests, there weren’t enough tests. That was two weeks ago


355 posted on 02/13/2020 10:11:45 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Paul R.

>>Every contact of mine I can recall went “back home” for CNY, and many of those were long trips: 500 km, 1000 km or more. I expressed some surprise at this to one fellow, and he said practically the whole factory did same. Most went by rail and / or bus.<<

Interesting reply. Thanks for the information.

Also, until today I’ve really questioned all the numbers coming out of China, and in particular these two: 1) the numbers from Hubei Province (which Wuhan is a part of) and 2) the numbers from all other provinces.

Yesterday’s report for Hubei confirmed what I’ve suspected, i.e., that many cases had gone undiagnosed due to not being formally tested (for whatever reason, most likely a shortage of test kits, though)

But a very interesting article in the Wall St. Journal from two days ago that I just now read makes me question my opinion that the totals for the other provinces are being way underreported. The article covered the progress of an early case as he went through various parts of China, both spreading the virus and eventually being diagnosed with it. It was clear from the article that in other parts of China, and in the early stages of the virus multiplying, China did quite a good job of trying to contain the cases. He was quarantined and eventually recovered and most of his contacts were located and followed, despite his being in several cities before being diagnosed.

That makes me wonder if the rest of China’s cases might actually be much more accurate, for now at least. I’m still skeptical, because the case numbers started to drop right after Xi proclaimed, on Feb 3, that stopping the virus was a priority. But the article gave me reason to question my skepticism at least.


356 posted on 02/13/2020 10:14:16 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: blueplum

I’ve heard that the nurses are having to take their masks off after about 6 hours and huff o2 because the masks are restricting breathing. Is it possible some of the ‘drop dead’ folks were suffocated from over-wearing masks?


No idea what the characteristics of these masks are, but for military MOPP gear, it takes some practice to get used to the masks. The first time we went ‘running’ (bouncy-walking) in them, we had a lot of folks pass out or have to stop after a couple hundred yards. After a couple of months of weekly training in them, we could wear them all shift and even play volleyball.

I’d expect anyone at home with them would just yank them off if they couldn’t breathe - if they wore them at all there.


357 posted on 02/13/2020 10:26:07 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: janetjanet998

Color me skeptical. Most of the people who die are dying of pneumonia. Some Chinese call it the “new pneumonia”. I hope they do autopsies.

MANILA (Philippine Daily Inquirer/ANN): Another individual tagged as a patient under investigation (PUI) for suspected novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) infection died Thursday, the Department of Health (DOH) said on Friday (Feb 7).

In a press briefing, DOH Undersecretary Eric Domingo stressed that the patient died of pneumonia and not of 2019-nCov.

“The second PUI death which was confirmed yesterday (Thursday) is a case of pneumonia in a patient with underlying restrictive lung disease, ” Domingo said.

The first case of PUI death was a 29-year-old Chinese from Yunnan who also succumbed to pneumonia and later on tested negative for novel coronavirus.

As of Friday noon, Domingo said the government is monitoring a total of 215 PUIs, including the three confirmed cases

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/02/07/second-philippine-patient-under-probe-for-new-coronavirus-dies-of-pneumonia


358 posted on 02/13/2020 10:28:14 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: lepton

Is there a page that shows something different than what is on the widely referred to Johns Hopkins page? On that page, they show for Hubei 48,206 confirmed cases, 1,310 deaths, just under 3% rather than 30%.


359 posted on 02/13/2020 10:31:02 AM PST by WillVoteForFood
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Artie Ojeda
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Ominous Video from MCAS Miramar. Right now, crews in full protective gear are going into the designated medical area at the base. Vid provided by quarantined evacuee. Waiting to hear from CDC to find it exactly what’s going on. No Confirmed new cases of Coronavirus. #nbc7

https://twitter.com/ArtieNBCSD/status/1228023525211955200


360 posted on 02/13/2020 10:36:37 AM PST by janetjanet998
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