[RetiredArmy]

Good article about the hoax of Palestine and the so-called Palestinians. Here are not and never has been a people called by these names UNTIL the Romans, not the as the Arab leader in the above article, one Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, an Arab Muslim leader, claimed that the "Zionists invented" the term. The Zionists DID NOT invent the term, the Romans did. After the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in AD70 and the rebellion of AD132-135, the Romans started to call Judea by the name of Palestine, after Israel's old enemy, the Philistines. They also attempted to change the name of Jerusalem, but that term did not catch on as Palestine did. Until Arafat and his mob started to claim the term, the Jews were the Palestinians of the region, not the Arabs as this article reports.

[Meatspace]

Return to the biblical borders of Israel.

[wny]

During a discussion with a lib hole prattling on about the “Palestinians” i asked her to show me Palestine on a map. She had no idea where to even look, she couldn’t find Israel

[richardtavor]

Since Britain was a former Roman Province (Britannia), it was natural for them to grab the Roman name for Israel. The Emperor Hadrian named Jerusalem Aelia Capitolina in order to erase the names of Judea, Samaria, and all of Israel (He thought forever). The Emperor Hadrian built “His” wall to separate Britannia from the Northern tribes in 122, which secured Britain. He then destroyed Jerusalem (again) during the Bar Kochba Rebellion in 136. He died in 138. Syriana Palestina was never more than a Roman Province and was never a recognized country. Israel will live forever.

[isthisnickcool]

What? I speak Palestinian and will do so in the rest of this post!

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[maddog55]

There’s no such thing as Palestinians... nothing new here.

That’s like me saying North American and I want all of California so we need to call on the elimination of Californians.

[workerbee]

Returning to reality and discarding propaganda fantasies can never have a downside. It’s time to take that step.

We've devolved into a society willing to call biological males "women" and codify it in law. Good luck overthowing the myth of the Palestinians.

[hecticskeptic]

There is no such nation, race, ethnicity, nationality, or culture, and never was!

This has always been my understanding as well. The issue does come up though because the Bible makes reference to the Philistines.... similar name but as a race, the Philistines disappeared at the time of Nebuchadnezzar or perhaps a bit later under the Assyrians.

[Sans-Culotte]

Fake Palestine bump.

[Buttons12]

Marketing. It’s pretty effective.

[Fungi]

Arafat was a master of this nonsense.
The “Palestinian” was born in Egypt.

[Caipirabob]

But...but...the Blue UN fairy said so...

[Mase]

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[jjotto]

As long as ‘Palestinians’ were generic Arabs, their Arab brothers were all in on the scam just as a way to attack Jews. Over the years, those generic Arabs have developed a ‘Palestinian’ identity and their fellow Arabs are abandoning them in the way that they have no interest in a Kurdish national homeland.

[SarahPalin2012]

I think the Israelis in the “West Bank” area should call themselves Babylonians and claim the land.

[wardaddy]

What to call the Arabs who were displaced doesn’t fix anything

It’s just word games like Democrats are always evil and GOPe always good

Call them what you want it’s still an issue that looks difficult to fix

Impossible to fix honestly

Call them Jordanians or Hashemites or whatever

It’s funny speaking of the sound and fury and ignorance that often accompanies such

How many here know how many of the early Arabs displaced were Christian and that they led the terrosrism and militia campaigns against Israel till the rise of Fatah

I guarantee you average freeper thinks iit was always them dang Muslims

[SkyDancer]

My two cents worth:

There was an Israeli state in the land of Israel 2000 years before the evil prophet of Islam allegedly flying on a "magical horse" from Mecca to Jerusalem.

• * There was an Israeli nation in the land of Israel.
• * There was an Israeli kingdom in the land of Israel.
• * There were Israeli kings in the Israeli kingdom of Israel.
• * There was an Israeli capital in the kingdom of Israel.
• * There was and there is an Israeli essence.
• * There was and there is an Israeli heritage.
• * There was and there is an Israeli culture.

  The “Palestinians” are Arabs who were brought to the region by the Ottoman empire as part of the Muslim occupation in the region. They are definitely not the tribes from Crete who settled down in the 5 cities of Gaza strip after the Exodus of Israel from Egypt. These tribes were called Philistines and they weren’t Arabs at all and today’s “Palestinians” are definitely not their descendants. The Philistines don’t exist as a nation.

  Israel isn't just a name of a state. It's first and for all a name of a nation (Am Yisrael). Israel is the name of the father of the nation (Jacob) and Israelis are his descendants. The real meaning of the word 'Israeli' is someone who belongs to the nation of Israel and not only "a citizen of a state called Israel".

  Gentiles invented the word ‘Jews’. When the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans occupied the land of Israel they called all the Israelis in the name 'Jews' because at those days the tribe of Judah was the biggest and the dominant tribe which survived the exile of Assyria in which 10 tribes of Israel were exiled. The tribe of Judah lived in the Judean desert thus the gentiles who occupied the land of Israel called the members of this tribe (and also the ones of Benjamin and Levi who joined it) in the name 'Jews'.

  When Israelis (Jews) who live abroad go to synagogue they don't read about Jews in the prayer books nor in the Torah but about 'The Nation of Israel', 'The Children of Israel', 'The House of Israel’,'Shema Yisrael' etc. They are Israelis because they belong to the nation of Israel even if they aren't citizens of a state called Israel. Both the words 'Jews' and 'Israelis' refer to nationality, to ethnic identity and not to religion. Jews are members of the tribe of Judah and not "people who believe in Judaism". And the nation isn't called Judah but Israel, and so does the land and in the future the 10 tribes will return to this nation.

  That's why Arab citizens of Israel don't define themselves as Israelis but as Arab/"Palestinian" citizens of a state CALLED Israel. They aren't members of the Israeli nation but of the Ishmaelite nation. Ishmael used to shoot arrows at Isaac (father of Israel) while saying: "I'm only playing..." That's why there's no "Israeli-Palestinian conflict" but a WAR that the Ishmaelite/Arabs opened on the Israelis. Also Muhammad murdered Israelis in Saudi Arabia who refused to accept his murderous pagan dream.

  Couple of facts about Israel that the haters of Israel don't like:

  1. Israel became a state in 1312 B.C., two millennia before Islam.

• 2.Arab refugees from Israel began calling themselves "Palestinians"in1967, two decades after (modern) Israeli statehood in 1948.
• 3.After conquering the land in 1272 B.C., Jews ruled it for a thousand years and maintained a continuous presence there for 3,300years.
• 4.The only Arab rule following conquest in 633 BC lasted just 22 years.
• 5.For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem was the Jewish capital. It was never the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even under Jordanian rule,(East) Jerusalem was not made the capital, and no Arab leader came to visit it.
• 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the bible, but not once is it mentioned in the Qur'an.
• 7. King David founded Jerusalem; Mohammed never set foot in it.
• 8.Jews pray facing Jerusalem; Muslims face Mecca. If they are between the two cities, Muslims pray facing Mecca, with their backs to Jerusalem.
• 9.In 1948, Arab leaders urged their people to leave, promising to cleanse the land of Jewish presence. 68% of them fled without ever setting eyes on an Israeli soldier.
• 10. Virtually the entire Jewish population of Muslim countries had to flee as the result of violence and pogroms.
• 11. Some 630,000 Arabs left Israel in 1948, while close to a million Jews were forced to leave the Muslim countries.
• 12.In spite of the vast territories at their disposal, Arab refugees were deliberately prevented from assimilating into their host countries. Of100 million refugees following World War 2, they are the only group to have never integrated with their co-religionists. Most of the Jewish refugees from Europe and Arab lands were settled in Israel ,a country no larger than New Jersey, USA.
• 13. There are 22 Muslim countries, not counting Palestine. There is only one Jewish state.
• 14. Fatah and Hamas constitutions still call for the destruction of Israel.
• Israel ceded most of the west bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinian authority, and even provided it with arms.
• 15.During the Jordanian occupation, Jewish holy sites were vandalized and were off limits to Jews. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian holy sites are accessible to all faiths.
• 16. Out of 175 United Nations Security Council resolutions up to1990, 97 were against Israel; out of 690 general assembly resolutions,429 were against Israel.
• 17. The U.N. was silent when the Jordanians destroyed 58 synagogues in the old city of Jerusalem. It remained silent while Jordan systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, and it remained silent when Jordan enforced apartheid laws preventing Jews from accessing the temple mount and western wall.
• 18. Arabs started all five wars against Israel, and lost every one of them.

[wjcsux]

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[gandalftb]

Good grief! We have got to get a hold of Netanyahu and re-educate him.
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FEBRUARY 5, 2020 - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said: “In the past we used to give and the Palestinians would get,” he said. “Now we are the ones receiving and the Palestinians are doing the giving,” he was speaking during a Likud rally held in Ra’anana.
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https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Netanyahu-We-used-to-give-and-Palestinians-get-now-were-receiving-616634

[A Navy Vet]

Wasn't the 1948 UN partition of Trans-Jordan the defining point of the modern conflict because the newly named Palis wanted the section that went to Israel? And weren't all those Arabs (Palis) from Jordan and Egypt initially? Yes, some lived in now what is Israel. But the UN drew the lines and the World accepted them, except for the Palis.

Sometimes in discussion, I ask the question: Why is it that with all the land in all the Arab ME, the Palis have not been offered their own land to form a real nation? Then I ask: When Israel unilaterally gave up the Gaza Strip, why did the Palis immediately destroyed much of the Israeli infra-structure. That answers my first question.

When I first became interested in the 90'a, I remember the horror reports of the Pali refugee camps. Then, because of an Israeli counter-attack, the photos came out to show actual towns, not tents. Because of Arafat's Intifadas, 1000's of innocent peaceful freedom-loving Israelis were murdered at/in market places, cafes, weddings, buses, etc. by the Palis. It was almost a weekly occurrence.

It subsided for a short time during peace negotiation, but when Arafat didn't get some 5% of his demands at the Camp David Accords. He immediately declared another Intifada against Israel and the murders picked up full steam. I'm not sure when Israel started the wall, but it sure has been effective.

It's been a while since I've followed that conflict, so feel to correct my statements.

[MurrietaMadman]

It's the original proxy war.

Hoax vs Hoax.

Everybody gets to choose a side. Think, pray and choose wisely.