Posted on 02/01/2020 2:28:57 PM PST by billorites
There were 7,711 confirmed cases of the coronavirus in mainland China on Thursday. The number of confirmed cases has grown by about one-third per day for the past several daysa disturbingly steep growth curve for a highly contagious virus that is said to mutate rapidly. And that is already more than the 5,327 infections that happened during the SARS outbreak of 2003also in China. Now there are also confirmed cases of coronavirus in every province of China and in 18 other countries, including the United States.
Despite quarantining Wuhan, a city of 11 million people (by comparison, New York City has 8.6 million residents), Chinese authorities have not been able to control the spread of this virus. As a result, the World Health Organization is considering declaring the coronavirus outbreak a global health emergency.
As we consider the frequent outbreaks of deadly, highly contagious virus epidemics originating in China and spreading to the rest of the world; their slow, ineffective responses; and the curious circumstances surrounding the origin of this particular virus, in the context of Chinas increasingly aggressive geopolitical ambitions, its time for the rest of the world to ask some hard questions.
Lets start with just one: Is China merely bad (as in incompetent) or is it evil (that is, full of malevolent intent)?
This much is becoming clear: China is a public health threat to the rest of the world.
According to Penn State University biologist Edward Holmes, the primary strains of flu appear to arise every year from a reservoir, perhaps in the tropics. A report by Reuters adds. Many experts have long believed Asia, and specifically China, to be the source of most influenza viruses. Whether or not China is the source of all or most flu viruses, it is certainly the source of many of the most dangerous ones.
The internet has been rife with memes about the current outbreak beginning in a live animal food market where people eat soup made from contaminated bats. Bats carry the virus but are not themselves infected by it.
But with China now widely understood as having ambitions to become the worlds hegemonic power, many people are wondering what they are up to, especially as information has come to light about the Wuhan Institute of Virology from which some people speculate that the coronavirus might have escaped. The Institute is a Level 4 microbiology lab (the most secure type that handles the most dangerous pathogens) operated by the Chinese government and it has been working on SARS, Ebola, and various strains of coronavirus. It is one of four labs in China that are believed to work on biological weapons. This is at the root of the evil thesis.
Its worth noting that just last year, two Chinese nationals, husband and wife Dr. Keding Cheng and Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, and an unknown number of their students (also Chinese nationals) were removed from the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police as part of an intellectual property theft investigation. The NML is Canadas only Level 4 microbiology lab, which is to say, its the type of lab the Chinese operate in Wuhan. Dr. Qiu is known for working on the Ebola virus, while her husband has published studies of SARS. The RCMP investigation noted that both made frequent trips back to China every year.
Does this mean that they were stealing intellectual property and sending it back to China? Thats not public information, but we do know that Chinese growth has relied upon the twin pillars of cheap labor and technology theft from the West. From semiconductors to software, power plants to pharmaceuticals, the Chinese are dependent upon espionage to keep up with the developed world. This is bad business for America and has led to stagnant wages, a shrinking middle class, and hollowed-out towns across the interior of the country.
When China steals technology, Americans lose jobsthats bad enoughbut incompetence or malevolence in handling pathogens can lead to viral outbreaks that can kill you. Thats worse.
This leads to obvious questions without obvious answers:
1) Did the virus originate in the Wuhan lab?
2) If so, was it being developed as a bioweapon?
3) If it was being developed as a bioweapon, was it released intentionally? There is currently no public evidence that it was, but the Chinese government delayed reporting the outbreak to the WHO by several days. Again, this reasonably gives rise to the bad or evil question.
4) If the virus came from the Wuhan lab and was not released intentionally (we certainly hope not) why was the Chinese government unable to contain the virus at what should be a highly secure facility?
Occams Razor is a problem-solving principle that says entities should not be multiplied without necessity. It could be fairly reframed as the simplest answer is usually right. In practice, that means its usually incompetence rather than conspiracy. Incompetence is easyjust do nothing!while successful conspiracies are hard to get moving as they require the cooperation of multiple entities.
So if this is incompetence, it speaks directly to the strength of the Chinese state which is currently spending vast resources around the globe in a largely successful attempt to buy influence and prestige, in short, to replace the United States and Europe in global leadership. The population of China (1.386 billion) is a potential source of strengthwhile also presenting governance challengesthat makes American dominance more difficult. After all, it was the ability of 18th century England to produce and export surplus population due to advances in agriculture that allowed them to quickly supersede their rival trading and exploring power of Portugal and Spain, even though that power had a substantial lead.
Chinese predominance clearly would be bad for American interests, though some Europeans (led by Germanys Angela Merkel) have taken actions that suggest a decision on their part to realign with China against the United States. Its worth noting the Trump Administrations attempted rapprochement with Russia in 2017, in part, was about building relationships to counter the Chinese threat. But Democrats sacrificed that wise geopolitical effort for short-term political advantage.
Leaving aside American interests for a moment, what if China just isnt up to it?
The Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986 was a sign that the Soviet Union, though possessing a massive military bristling with nuclear weapons and remarkably, destructively active all around the world, was actually built on sand. In fact, it would last barely three more years before crumbling almost overnight.
Viewed in hindsight, the incompetence and apathy that led to Chernobyl were telling us something about the strength and stability of the regime. Perhaps, Chinas inability to effectively control viruses and maybemaybe!even their inability to control high-value, high-security government laboratories tells us more about the Chinese regime than Xi Jinping would like us to know.
A compelling case could be made that the Chinese miracle is built on lies. Its Enron times a billion. History supports this thesis. Throughout history, Han China has attempted hubristic expansion and then been defeated by much smaller regional rivals: the Manchu, Tibet, Mongolia, and Japan.
The proper word is not good or evil. The proper word is “unprepared”.
Not necessarily. But I would not say Chinese is evil. The current Chinese government is evil.
Government imposed abortion kind of sounds evil?
I’ve lost count of the countries that were gonna do us in.
Even nonsense here about Iran sinking a whole lot of our ships in a war.
China is a 3rd world Joke that doesn’t have enough common sense and enough antibiotics to stop the spread of a virus.
I know a lot of people died in 1918.
Developing pneumonia is what is killing the Chinese.
There was no penicillin in 1918 and there’s very likely an incredible shortage in 2020 china.
And they’d rather watch their people die than ask for outside help and drugs.
Some super power.
It is a third world communist country......evil
Population control?
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.
Yes. we are watching with more interest than usual.
Depends on where the narrative is taking place.
The discussion of good and evil exists on the highest level.
Ok so a million people die. What’s a million Chinese?
Can’t they be both?
The virus is communicated via respirated droplets. So how do you catch it from eating soup? Are people sucking it in to cool it off and aspirating droplets from the liquid? Blowing on it and spreading droplets in the room for others to breathe? Or some other mechanism linking the alimentary canal to the respiratory system?
Serious question for the virologists and microbiologists here.
this is mostly speculative drivel
Mostly, China is intensely populated
I really find these Iran, Russia, China, Venezuela, Bolivia, Syria threads such BS propaganda.
I think it was the US who dropped plague on North Korea during the Korean war, infected black Americans with Syphilis, and gave radiation laced Cheerios to children. I think many governments are researching ways to drop a biological or chemical apocalypse on their “enemies”.
I doubt any country could effectively deal with a situation of the numbers that China is experiencing. Look at Katrina, and the ineffective response that initially followed.
Harvesting human organs from prisoners tells us China is bad.
Asking questions about other issues as if what China is were not already established tells us that the writer is either also evil or has an astonishing level of stupidity.
The Chinese economy in 2020 is about where the Model T Ford was 100 years ago. Where the Chinese economy is in the year 2099 is the main question.? I imagine the Chinese will continue to use slave labor and political corruption to advance the betterment of the Chinese elite. In other realms: The Mafia at one time used gangsters to rule Las Vegas. Now adays the Mafia has college graduate lawyers and college graduate CPAs in Las Vegas to rule the process. What will China have in the year 2065 for the Communist version of Apple Pie and Chevrolet is going to be interesting. And then the Chinese Hippy Movement of the 2065 to 2075 will be fun to watch.
Karma for fentanyl. Suck it, China.
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