Posted on 02/01/2020 2:28:57 PM PST by billorites
There were 7,711 confirmed cases of the coronavirus in mainland China on Thursday. The number of confirmed cases has grown by about one-third per day for the past several daysa disturbingly steep growth curve for a highly contagious virus that is said to mutate rapidly. And that is already more than the 5,327 infections that happened during the SARS outbreak of 2003also in China. Now there are also confirmed cases of coronavirus in every province of China and in 18 other countries, including the United States.
Despite quarantining Wuhan, a city of 11 million people (by comparison, New York City has 8.6 million residents), Chinese authorities have not been able to control the spread of this virus. As a result, the World Health Organization is considering declaring the coronavirus outbreak a global health emergency.
As we consider the frequent outbreaks of deadly, highly contagious virus epidemics originating in China and spreading to the rest of the world; their slow, ineffective responses; and the curious circumstances surrounding the origin of this particular virus, in the context of Chinas increasingly aggressive geopolitical ambitions, its time for the rest of the world to ask some hard questions.
Lets start with just one: Is China merely bad (as in incompetent) or is it evil (that is, full of malevolent intent)?
This much is becoming clear: China is a public health threat to the rest of the world.
According to Penn State University biologist Edward Holmes, the primary strains of flu appear to arise every year from a reservoir, perhaps in the tropics. A report by Reuters adds. Many experts have long believed Asia, and specifically China, to be the source of most influenza viruses. Whether or not China is the source of all or most flu viruses, it is certainly the source of many of the most dangerous ones.
The internet has been rife with memes about the current outbreak beginning in a live animal food market where people eat soup made from contaminated bats. Bats carry the virus but are not themselves infected by it.
But with China now widely understood as having ambitions to become the worlds hegemonic power, many people are wondering what they are up to, especially as information has come to light about the Wuhan Institute of Virology from which some people speculate that the coronavirus might have escaped. The Institute is a Level 4 microbiology lab (the most secure type that handles the most dangerous pathogens) operated by the Chinese government and it has been working on SARS, Ebola, and various strains of coronavirus. It is one of four labs in China that are believed to work on biological weapons. This is at the root of the evil thesis.
Its worth noting that just last year, two Chinese nationals, husband and wife Dr. Keding Cheng and Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, and an unknown number of their students (also Chinese nationals) were removed from the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police as part of an intellectual property theft investigation. The NML is Canadas only Level 4 microbiology lab, which is to say, its the type of lab the Chinese operate in Wuhan. Dr. Qiu is known for working on the Ebola virus, while her husband has published studies of SARS. The RCMP investigation noted that both made frequent trips back to China every year.
Does this mean that they were stealing intellectual property and sending it back to China? Thats not public information, but we do know that Chinese growth has relied upon the twin pillars of cheap labor and technology theft from the West. From semiconductors to software, power plants to pharmaceuticals, the Chinese are dependent upon espionage to keep up with the developed world. This is bad business for America and has led to stagnant wages, a shrinking middle class, and hollowed-out towns across the interior of the country.
When China steals technology, Americans lose jobsthats bad enoughbut incompetence or malevolence in handling pathogens can lead to viral outbreaks that can kill you. Thats worse.
This leads to obvious questions without obvious answers:
1) Did the virus originate in the Wuhan lab?
2) If so, was it being developed as a bioweapon?
3) If it was being developed as a bioweapon, was it released intentionally? There is currently no public evidence that it was, but the Chinese government delayed reporting the outbreak to the WHO by several days. Again, this reasonably gives rise to the bad or evil question.
4) If the virus came from the Wuhan lab and was not released intentionally (we certainly hope not) why was the Chinese government unable to contain the virus at what should be a highly secure facility?
Occams Razor is a problem-solving principle that says entities should not be multiplied without necessity. It could be fairly reframed as the simplest answer is usually right. In practice, that means its usually incompetence rather than conspiracy. Incompetence is easyjust do nothing!while successful conspiracies are hard to get moving as they require the cooperation of multiple entities.
So if this is incompetence, it speaks directly to the strength of the Chinese state which is currently spending vast resources around the globe in a largely successful attempt to buy influence and prestige, in short, to replace the United States and Europe in global leadership. The population of China (1.386 billion) is a potential source of strengthwhile also presenting governance challengesthat makes American dominance more difficult. After all, it was the ability of 18th century England to produce and export surplus population due to advances in agriculture that allowed them to quickly supersede their rival trading and exploring power of Portugal and Spain, even though that power had a substantial lead.
Chinese predominance clearly would be bad for American interests, though some Europeans (led by Germanys Angela Merkel) have taken actions that suggest a decision on their part to realign with China against the United States. Its worth noting the Trump Administrations attempted rapprochement with Russia in 2017, in part, was about building relationships to counter the Chinese threat. But Democrats sacrificed that wise geopolitical effort for short-term political advantage.
Leaving aside American interests for a moment, what if China just isnt up to it?
The Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986 was a sign that the Soviet Union, though possessing a massive military bristling with nuclear weapons and remarkably, destructively active all around the world, was actually built on sand. In fact, it would last barely three more years before crumbling almost overnight.
Viewed in hindsight, the incompetence and apathy that led to Chernobyl were telling us something about the strength and stability of the regime. Perhaps, Chinas inability to effectively control viruses and maybemaybe!even their inability to control high-value, high-security government laboratories tells us more about the Chinese regime than Xi Jinping would like us to know.
A compelling case could be made that the Chinese miracle is built on lies. Its Enron times a billion. History supports this thesis. Throughout history, Han China has attempted hubristic expansion and then been defeated by much smaller regional rivals: the Manchu, Tibet, Mongolia, and Japan.
Don’t trust China.
China is asshoe.
;-P
That is true. And that started decades before the new Chinese concentration camps. They used to specify the organs would be harvested "from a non-smoker only."
I used to think when I heard that , show me some Chinese people who are non-smokers. I knew two out of maybe twenty or so through the years at work. That's just my experience, though.
neither... Just tells us some idiot was careless with a stored virus.
2017 -2018 new Chinese virus withheld so others cannot make vaccines.
China Holds Out On Bird Flu Samples - Science Friday
https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/chinas-holdout-on-bird-flu-samples-and-a-higgs...
Despite a World Health Organization agreement, China has withheld samples of the bird flu virus H7N9 from U.S. scientists who are looking to develop vaccines and treatments for the deadly virus.
China Has Withheld Samples of a Dangerous Flu Virus - Slashdot
https://science.slashdot.org/story/18/08/28/1817237
China Has Withheld Samples of a Dangerous Flu Virus - Slashdot For over a year, the Chinese government has withheld lab samples of a rapidly evolving influenza virus from the United States — specimens needed to develop vaccines and treatments, according to federal health officials, The New York Times reports.
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China has withheld samples of deadly avian influenza ...
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na withholding crucial bird flu virus samples outraging ...
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20180829/China-withholding-crucial-bird-flu-virus...
Aug 29, 2018 · H7N9 is a form of avian or bird flu that emerged in China in 2013 and there have been related epidemics all over Asia annually since then. Around 1,565 individuals have been affected in 2013. Last outbreak, seen in October 2016 to September 2017 infected 766 cases.
China Withholding H7N9 Bird Flu Virus Samples From the ...
https://www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com/home/topics/respiratory/influenza/china...
Aug 31, 2018 · HealthDay News Chinese officials have not sent lab samples of H7N9 bird flu virus to their US counterparts despite repeated requests and an international agreement. US officials say the specimens of the rapidly evolving virus are needed to develop vaccines and treatments, The New York Times reported.
China withholding H7N9 bird flu virus samples from U.S.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-08-china-h7n9-bird-flu-virus.html
Aug 31, 2018 · China withholding H7N9 bird flu virus samples from U.S. (HealthDay)Chinese officials have not sent lab samples of H7N9 bird flu virus to their U.S. counterparts despite repeated requests and an international agreement.
Does the Coronavirus Outbreak Tell Us That China Is Bad or Evil?
No we knew that already. Coronavirus just reinforces that.
“Whats a million Chinese?”
Living, breathing human beings with hopes and dreams made in God’s Image like everyone on this planet.
“Ok so a million people die. Whats a million Chinese?”
That’s a million moms, dads, kids, brothers, sisters, best friends, co-workers, neighbors. That’s people with talents, abilities, some beautiful, some not, but all unique and all gifted with a soul.
For years and years, China and the Chinese have been raping the world of some of its most rare and endangered species. All to satisfy their predilection to eat exotic animals and substances derived thereof, in order to enhance their libido or virility ( as if there aren’t enough of them already) Now, it is coming back to bite them. These extinction purveyors are getting some of their own medicine. Personally, it will not bother me much if 80% of the Chinese disappear. Karma
Yes yes yes and the animals endure intense torture! #Sick
The word is Satanic! I just hope enough of their people get hit with it for a Tiananmen Square uprising so bad that even these Commie bastards can quell it..due to half their force having the disease. They are front line to all this!
Large swaths of China are premodern in their hygiene and personal habits and have only a dim understanding of how germs and a lack of cleanliness spread disease. Moreover, in rural China, humans and farm animals live close together without proper sanitation. They thereby facilitate the development of new human viral illnesses from animal viruses and the recombination of two or more viruses into new, more deadly viral strains. In short, China is not so much bad or evil as that many of its people are poor, dirty, ignorant, and backward.
But, inexplicably, are fantastic dancers.
The fact the are communist shows they are bad
A virus is much better optics than tanks for stopping the Hong Kong protest, can’t have another Tiananmen Square like ‘89.
Antibiotics are directed at bacterial pathogens. They are useless for viruses. A limited number of antivirals directed at impairing viral replication exist with inconsistent performance. Vaccines directed against viral antigens take a couple weeks for the recipient to generate an effective titer of antibody. If the virus mutates in a way that changes the antigenic target, the virus is no longer subject to intervention by the existing antibody. We’re early in the process of finding a stable target antigen on this new corona virus.
The virus isn’t killing them nearly as much as pneumonia is.
And that’s a bacterial infection.
Well I was wrong. There is viral pneumonia.
We’re all gonna die :)
There goes a week of being calm about this :)
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