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Pelosi says Trump lawyers have 'disgraced' themselves, suggests disbarment
The Hill ^ | January 30, 2020 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 01/30/2020 10:18:59 AM PST by jazusamo

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday hammered the lawyers leading President Trump's impeachment defense, saying they've trampled on the Constitution while questioning how they've been allowed to keep their jobs.

"I don't know how they can retain their lawyer status, in the comments that they're making," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol.

Pelosi was responding largely to comments made Wednesday evening by Alan Dershowitz, a celebrity lawyer on Trump's legal team, who asserted on the Senate floor that presidents cannot be impeached for actions designed to boost their reelections — if they believe that retaining a grip on the White House is in the best interest of the country. And "every public official I know," he added, considers that to be the case.

"If a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment," Dershowitz said.

The exception, said Dershowitz, an opinion contributor to The Hill, would be cases where the conduct violated a specific law. The Democrats' two impeachment articles, charging Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, fall outside the federal criminal code.

"The articles of impeachment violate the Constitution," Trump's leading lawyers, Jay Sekulow and Pat Cipollone, said at the outset of the Senate trial. "They are defective in their entirety."

Democrats have vehemently rejected the White House arguments, saying impeachment is an inherently political — not judicial — response designed to protect the country from elected officials who violate the public trust, crime or none. Their impeachment case hinges on allegations that Trump violated that trust in withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine to press the country's leaders to find dirt on his political rivals.

Pelosi on Thursday accused Trump's Republican allies of trying "to dismantle the Constitution" in their defense of the president.

"Some of them are even lawyers," she said. "Imagine that you would say — ever, of any president, no matter who he or she is or whatever party — if the president thinks that his or her presidency ... is good for the country, then any action is justified — including encouraging a foreign government to have an impact on our elections.

"[That] is exactly what our Founders were opposed to — and they feared," she added. "I don't think they made the case. I think they disgraced themselves terribly in terms of their violation of what our Constitution is about and what a president's behavior should be."

Pelosi's comments came several hours before the Senate launched the ninth day of the impeachment trial, featuring the second day when senators will be allowed to ask questions of Trump's defense team and the House Democrats' prosecuting the case.

A central battle throughout the Senate process has revolved around questions of whether new witnesses and material evidence, which has emerged since the House voted to impeach Trump last month, will be allowed to appear.

Democrats have argued for the new information, noting that every other Senate impeachment trial in the nation's history has featured witnesses. Republicans are virtually united in their opposition to that plan, saying it was the job of the House, not the Senate, to conduct the underlying investigation.

One witness, in particular, is a focus of the fight: John Bolton, Trump's former national security advisor, has offered to testify before the Senate under subpoena. And his forthcoming book includes first-hand allegations of the president telling him directly that he was withholding aid to Ukraine to secure politically tinged investigations into his Democratic rivals — a direct contradiction of Trump's defense.

The Senate is expected to vote on the question of whether to call witnesses on Friday. At least two Republicans — Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) and Mitt Romney (Utah) — have indicated they're likely to support that strategy. Democrats, however, need four defectors to secure the new information.

A wildcard in that debate is John Roberts, the chief justice of the Supreme Court who's presiding over the Senate trial.

Pelosi on Thursday said a Senate vote to acquit Trump would be invalid without calling new witnesses.

"He will not be acquitted. You cannot be acquitted if you don't have a trial; and you don't have a trial if you don't have witnesses and documentation," she said.

She also called on Roberts to step in and break a tie vote, in the event that three Republican senators vote for witnesses, creating a 50-50 tally. "I would think that they would have confidence in the chief justice of the United States," she said. "That's interesting to me that they're afraid of breaking a tie with the chief justice of the United States."

Pelosi declined to say if the House committees that have investigated Trump's pressure campaign in Ukraine — the issue that led to Trump's impeachment last month — would move to subpoena Bolton if the Senate does not.

"This is in the Senate now," she said. "We'll see what happens after that."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cipollone; dershowitz; fakeimpeachment; impeachment; nancypelosi; nutcase; nutjob; peach45; peachfotyfi; pelosi; presidenttrump; sekulow; senate; senatetrial; tds; trump; trumplegalteam
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To: Jim Robinson
If she’s such a ‘master strategist’ why does she have to do everything by blunt force?

Yep, I believe that's all she's got left. She's to the point she won't even listen to a sane adviser if she's got one.

41 posted on 01/30/2020 10:35:09 AM PST by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: dp0622
U no I wouldn't call u that.😁
42 posted on 01/30/2020 10:35:52 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: dp0622
Lol!!😂🤣😂🤣
43 posted on 01/30/2020 10:36:01 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: jazusamo

I’ve yet to have a post removed by a moderator.

I’ll try to keep it that way, but it’s difficult when hear the crap she spews.


44 posted on 01/30/2020 10:36:04 AM PST by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: jazusamo
So sad that this demented woman is second in line for the presidency.

The Vice President would be surprised to hear that!

45 posted on 01/30/2020 10:36:57 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: jazusamo
It clear with every new public appearance that Nancy Pelois is in the grip of dementia or sever alcoholism. Democrats have to step up and remover her from the Speakership as soon as possible. The US cannot have an office of this importance in the hands of someone this obviously mentally incompetent.
46 posted on 01/30/2020 10:37:44 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Williams

I agree. That’s why it makes no difference in how they act towards non dimmies with this wanting to call witnesses. They would still be spouting diatribe like Pelosi even if they could bring in 100 witnesses for the prosecution. They want a full out and out coup...bottom line. We cannot coexist with trash like her and her ilk.


47 posted on 01/30/2020 10:38:00 AM PST by alabama_heart
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To: Maceman

I stand corrected on that score. Succession works that way indeed.


48 posted on 01/30/2020 10:38:19 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: jazusamo

Trying to break their rice bowl. I guess lawyers don’t get even the way normal people do. But if I was Pelosi, I wouldn’t pump self serve gas in a neighborhood where Trump’s lawyers live.

Just sayin’


49 posted on 01/30/2020 10:38:40 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: jazusamo

Will no one rid us of this menace?


50 posted on 01/30/2020 10:38:50 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: jazusamo

She was practicing at playing president - signing those impeachment documents with those gold pens.


51 posted on 01/30/2020 10:39:20 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: jazusamo

Pelosi heal thyself.


52 posted on 01/30/2020 10:40:10 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: COUNTrecount

Perfect!


53 posted on 01/30/2020 10:40:40 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: jazusamo

When will this woman shut up. When will she and Democrats STOP working to divide and destroy American lives. They are an absolute disgrace. What they are doing to this country is unconscionable.


54 posted on 01/30/2020 10:40:42 AM PST by Obadiah (Kill the deep state or lose the Republic.)
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To: jazusamo

This drunken, senile old hag is a disgrace to the country.


55 posted on 01/30/2020 10:41:17 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: jazusamo

Wow. Disgraced themselves by defending the Constitution against vile political hacks? They are the shameful oned.


56 posted on 01/30/2020 10:41:42 AM PST by jersey117
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To: jazusamo
The best way to crush Pelosi and the Democrat/Left Party is to take back the House in November, retain the Senate, then confirm two or three conservative justices to the USSC over the following four years.

Being completely out of power -- being irrelevant -- at the national level will cause the America/American-hating Democrat/Left Party and their whacked-out base to go completely insane ... and I can't wait!!!

57 posted on 01/30/2020 10:43:02 AM PST by glennaro
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To: MNJohnnie

Amen!

I believe it’s dementia and alcoholism.


58 posted on 01/30/2020 10:43:14 AM PST by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: jazusamo

“you don’t have a trial if you don’t have witnesses and documentation,”

Which was your job, Ms. Pelosi.
You failed.


59 posted on 01/30/2020 10:43:18 AM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: The Westerner
My uncle from Estonia got the misfortune of having to watch his family executed against the barn doors on their farm during the communist revolution. Several of those in the execution squad were family relatives.

History repeats itself. Be sure of that if nothing else.

60 posted on 01/30/2020 10:44:17 AM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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