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Hong Kong cuts China transport links as coronavirus toll mounts
Guardian ^ | 1/28/20 | Rebecca Ratcliffe

Posted on 01/28/2020 7:40:43 AM PST by Wayne07

About 4,515 cases of the illness have been recorded across the country, including almost 1,000 people in critical condition, according to state media. Though the number of cases appears to have risen quickly, from 2,887 on Monday, this was likely to be due to better reporting, and the numbers remain small compared with the population.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; coronavirus; hongkong; pandemic
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To: MeganC

I thought it was okay to be racist against Asians?...


21 posted on 01/28/2020 8:32:24 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

“I thought it was okay to be racist against Asians?...”

The left asserts conditional racism.

That means that right now you’re not supposed to say anything about Asian folks but the second they elect a conservative government just wait for someone on CNN to start using racial epithets to describe them.


22 posted on 01/28/2020 8:35:01 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Wayne07

CNBC just stated screening has been upped to 20 US airports. Not enough.


23 posted on 01/28/2020 8:49:04 AM PST by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: DoodleBob

Hey that was an insightful answer. Thanks


24 posted on 01/28/2020 8:54:46 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point do you at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t believe in any herbs and I still wait till my bronchitis becomes pneumonia!!

What an idiot.

Undertaker. That’s really too late!

Well when I got the bronchitis, you feel so sick that walking to the door, no less going to the doctor seems like climbing a mountain.

And the idiotic thinking goes that it will pass and the 10 minute ride to the doctor isn’t worth THE REST OF MY LIFE!

Anyhow, I sincerely hope not many more die in China.

But I fear they will.


25 posted on 01/28/2020 8:57:29 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point do you at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622

[I don’t believe in any herbs and I still wait till my bronchitis becomes pneumonia!!

What an idiot.

Undertaker. That’s really too late!

Well when I got the bronchitis, you feel so sick that walking to the door, no less going to the doctor seems like climbing a mountain.

And the idiotic thinking goes that it will pass and the 10 minute ride to the doctor isn’t worth THE REST OF MY LIFE!

Anyhow, I sincerely hope not many more die in China.

But I fear they will.]


In China, it may be a Darwinian thing. Believers in magic die and don’t pass on their genes, whereas people who believe in medical science get treatment early, (mostly) survive and do pass on those genes.


26 posted on 01/28/2020 9:00:30 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: dp0622; plain talk; Wayne07

“How do we know how many people got better at home and didn’t see a doctor?”

that’s exactly right ... for example, percentage-wise, only a tiny percentage of those with influenza go to the ER or land in a hospital, so just looking at fatalities in that small, extremely ill population doesn’t tell you what the fatality rate is in the population of everyone who contracts influenza: those numbers have to be ESTIMATED ...

not only that, but REPORTED cases of influenza are simply a very tiny percentage of those who actually get tested ... so it’s difficult to draw conclusions about 4,500 cases with 1,000 in critical condition, particularly since this is all being reported though the filters of the PRC and the extremely unreliable Manchester Guardian ...

additionally, how are the these “confirmed” cases being confirmed in the PRC? ... are they actually being tested specifically for coronavirus? ... because in the U.S. apparently there’s a backlog at the CDC (the only place coronavirus can be tested for in the U.S.) for a minuscule number of suspected cases being tested ... are we to believe that the PRC has the instant capability to QUICKLY test tens of thousands of a brand new virus like coronavirus though out all of its vast territory? i really don’t think so ...

so, bottom line, it’s way too soon to be drawing apocalyptic conclusions about the mortality of this virus ... however, if you REALLY want to panic, think about what happens to the world economy if panic and quarantines spread through out the PRC and the $2.5 TRILLION dollars worth of goods they export to the world is seriously disrupted ... that alone could cause more chaos than the virus and much sooner ...


27 posted on 01/28/2020 9:02:02 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

PRC is not testing everyone with symptoms right now. They run out of testing kits as soon as they are delivered to Wuhan.

I also want to know how many people sniffle, sneeze a few times, have a headache for a bit and then recover with no other symptoms. We likely won’t know that for a long time.


28 posted on 01/28/2020 9:04:11 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Really? Have you seen any top down urgency from Trump concerning this? I recall the ebola tweets from some years ago.


29 posted on 01/28/2020 9:13:27 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Zhang Fei

I hate more when the kids suffer.

Like with Christian Scientists not letting their kids get care.

I believe in praying. At the worst, it’s meditative and eases your soul somewhat.

But Jesus never said anything about not seeing a doctor!


30 posted on 01/28/2020 9:15:12 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point do you at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: catnipman

“so, bottom line, it’s way too soon to be drawing apocalyptic conclusions about the mortality of this virus ... however, if you REALLY want to panic, think about what happens to the world economy if panic and quarantines spread through out the PRC and the $2.5 TRILLION dollars worth of goods they export to the world is seriously disrupted ... that alone could cause more chaos than the virus and much sooner ...”

Good points. The damage is hardly limited to mortality. Those that live are in bad shape for a long time, can’t work. To your point — the fear alone will wreak significant economic and social havoc. So this will be a big disruptor ... in an election year.

The dem candidates will fall all over themselves somehow claiming Trump is incapable of handling something like this. Yet Trump can use this as yet another example of why illegal unchecked access into the US is a bad idea.


31 posted on 01/28/2020 9:18:55 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Theoria

At this point I’m assuming he’s acting on information he’s getting from the CDC.

Low risk to Americans, we’ll screen at the airports. You don’t want to harm the economy do you?

I’ve seen 3 govt agencies try to ‘take down’ a lawfully elected sitting president. At this point I assume they’re all in on that game in some fashion.


32 posted on 01/28/2020 9:23:33 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: plain talk

Except the carriers of this aren’t illegal and unchecked. They’re Chinese with visas/passports and we ‘check’ them at the airport for fever.

Legal, checked immigration is the issue with this thing.

I’m waiting to see what happens in college dorms over the next week or two. Hopefully a big nothing.


33 posted on 01/28/2020 9:24:56 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Since .gov has been screwing him over, why would he trust the cdc?


34 posted on 01/28/2020 9:25:03 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

I can’t answer that question.

Perhaps because that’s not his wheelhouse.

*shrug*


35 posted on 01/28/2020 9:26:49 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: dp0622

[But Jesus never said anything about not seeing a doctor!]


Indeed.


36 posted on 01/28/2020 9:35:26 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Wayne07
When was the last time you had a press conference with four bigwigs from the CDC during the middle of the day?

I don't remember that even for SARS or Ebola...

37 posted on 01/28/2020 9:51:07 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: plain talk

“The dem candidates will fall all over themselves somehow claiming Trump is incapable of handling something like this. Yet Trump can use this as yet another example of why illegal unchecked access into the US is a bad idea.”

two excellent points! that sword cuts both ways ...


38 posted on 01/28/2020 9:53:59 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Zhang Fei
I usually have to be borderline dead before I go to a doctor.

DITTO, my brother from another mother.

39 posted on 01/28/2020 10:38:00 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Some women are like that; but I think it’s mainly a ‘man’ thing.


40 posted on 01/28/2020 11:00:44 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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