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Supreme Court appears likely to allow public funding for religious schools
NBC "News" ^ | January 22, 2020 | by Peter Williams

Posted on 01/22/2020 1:31:11 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court seemed prepared Wednesday to rule that states violate the U.S. Constitution if they prevent religious schools from receiving some state benefits.

During an hour of courtroom argument, the court's conservatives indicated they were inclined to lower somewhat the wall of separation between church and state. If that's how the court rules, it could affect laws or constitutional provisions in 37 states that currently bar public funding for schools and churches.

The case involved a Montana program launched in 2015 to provide tax credits for people and businesses that donate to private schools. The organizations that receive the contributions then give financial aid to parents, who decide which private schools their children should attend.

But shortly after it was launched, a state agency barred any of the scholarship money from ending up at religious schools. It cited a provision of the Montana Constitution that prohibits "any direct or indirect appropriation or payment ... to aid any church, school ... controlled in whole or in part by any church."

Three mothers from low-income families went to court to challenge the restriction. One of them, Kendra Espinoza, uses the scholarship money to send her two daughters to Stillwater Christian School in Kalispell, holding yard sales to help afford the payments.

The Montana Supreme Court ruled that the scholarship program violated the state Constitution, so it struck down the entire law, eliminating the payments for both religious and secular schools. For that reason, the state's lawyer told the Supreme Court on Wednesday that there's no longer any discrimination since all private schools are treated the same.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: education; judiciary; liberty; politicaljudiciary; school; scotus; supremecourt
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1 posted on 01/22/2020 1:31:11 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Absolutely NOT!

Once the government gets it’s meat hooks into private schools, it can dictate what takes place in them.

This is a trap. Avoid it at all cost.

How would we like our private religious schools forced into presenting the latest social engineering, or demanding a race ratio be met, even thought parishioner children couldn’t do that.

Man, stay away from these snakes.


2 posted on 01/22/2020 1:34:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

RE: Supreme Court appears likely to allow public funding for religious schools

If I were a religious school, I WOULDN’T TAKE IT!

Money from government always come with STRINGS ATTACHED. Pretty soon, when you become depended on the money for your programs, you’ll have to meet government requirements for this or that program or what to or not to include in your curriculum.

RESIST THE TEMPTATION.


3 posted on 01/22/2020 1:35:52 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

FTA; “lower somewhat the wall of separation between church and state.”

Screw you NBC. You and your ignorant, undereducated employees should know there is no provision regarding “separation of church and state.”

There IS a provision against establishing a state religion.


4 posted on 01/22/2020 1:37:52 PM PST by chiller (As Davey Crockett once said: Be sure you're right. Then go ahead. I'm goin' ahead.)
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To: chiller

I wouldn’t take it either, but it might become helpful with DJT setting standards


5 posted on 01/22/2020 1:39:39 PM PST by chiller (As Davey Crockett once said: Be sure you're right. Then go ahead. I'm goin' ahead.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Wisconsin charter school law gives charter schools freedom from most state rules and regulations in exchange for greater accountability for results. The charter defines the missions and methods of the charter school. The chartering authority holds the school accountable to its charter.

Wisconsin also has a school choice program. Wisconsin offers a wealth of school choice options for families. Each Wisconsin student is assigned a district based on their home address and the large majority of families elect to send their children to that school. For more information on any of other options available, please click the links below: Local public school

Both good


6 posted on 01/22/2020 1:41:43 PM PST by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep right)
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To: SeekAndFind; Oldeconomybuyer; DoughtyOne
If I read it right, this isn't about taxpayer funding of private schools like we think of it (a check from the state or federal govt to the school). This is whether or not you can get a tax break for donating to a private school. (Obviously people are conflating tax breaks with govt checks.)

So worrying about govt using this as a way to get control of schools is a bit of a stretch. That'd be like saying we ought to remove tax breaks for church donations to keep Congress from appointing our preachers.

7 posted on 01/22/2020 1:48:01 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: UB355

Thank you. I’m not trying to rain on everyone’s parade, but the government is not there to help. It’s there to control.


8 posted on 01/22/2020 1:50:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: Tell It Right

Fair enough. I would be very leery, but your taxation on donations example does ring true, if this is merely a deduction plan.


9 posted on 01/22/2020 1:53:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I'm lost. Are the organizations that distribute the donated dollars part of the government? If so, why? Why not a charitable organization?

This seems to be about the money donated being tax deductible and therefore an in-kind contribution from the government (hey, I wouldn't put it past government wonks...).

Like I said, I be lost...

10 posted on 01/22/2020 1:55:24 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Again, there is no such Phrase as “The Separation of Church and State” in our beloved Federal Constitution. -[


11 posted on 01/22/2020 1:58:14 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This is the issue....

I am all for letting parents have choice, and private schools actually educated (for the most part) far better than public schools... however once they take the government money the strings will make them as inept as the public schools


12 posted on 01/22/2020 2:03:22 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

I went to a Catholic grade school many years ago.
Our readers included stories about the Catholic faith.

Then the government decided they could provide some money for Catholic schools to buy new textbooks. Only hitch was....any stories about Jesus, Francis of Assisi, Father Isaac Jogues, or a Catholic family preparing for a baptism had to go.

And go they did. Our new textbooks were 100% secular.
Strings duly attached.


13 posted on 01/22/2020 2:04:22 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: HamiltonJay

No problem with not taking the money. Just don’t expect me to pay into the system I am not using... let me redirect my tax dollars to the school of my choice.


14 posted on 01/22/2020 2:10:02 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am surprised this hasnt been fought and addressed already by simply attacking the ‘charitable donations’ tax code, which allows deductions for among other things, church donations.


15 posted on 01/22/2020 2:11:30 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: HamiltonJay

You’ll get a lot of sympathy with that view here.


16 posted on 01/22/2020 2:12:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: chiller
I wouldn’t take it either...

It's a tax credit for people paying for private schools. Why should government keep the tax money of people who don't use public school and who pay for private school?

17 posted on 01/22/2020 2:12:42 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: HamiltonJay
however once they take the government money the strings will make them as inept as the public schools

They're not "taking government money". They're getting their public school tax money back for kids who don't go to public school.

18 posted on 01/22/2020 2:14:55 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My kids went to a Catholic school in Derry, Nh in the early 1990s. We lived too far away but the local kids who went there were bused in by the same buses that dropped off the public school kids. I have no idea how they managed to do it.


19 posted on 01/22/2020 2:16:37 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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Supreme Court appears likely to allow public funding for religious schools

I think it's the NBC News headline that is fooling some people on this thread. Public funding is not being used for private school. Private school users are getting their tax money back for public school resources that they don't use.

20 posted on 01/22/2020 2:18:06 PM PST by FreeReign
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