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Posted on 01/19/2020 7:34:53 AM PST by chief lee runamok
Dismissing the Articles before hearing opening arguments could well be a violation of the Constitution and, at the least, result in a political goldmine for the D’s.
Considering the WH’s current legal maneuvers one could speculate a dismissal is the last thing on its mind.
Considering POTUS directly requested a dismissal I’d say you are wrong. Feel free contining to carrying water for those who didn’t even vote for Trump like Graham if you wish. I won’t be.
They will aquit him in the senate...
But the RINOS want to drag it out as long as possible to tank Trumps poll numbers and hope he loses the election..,
The problem is I do not think it will work...
But they will try...
If I’m McConnell, my goal is to accomplish two things here:
1. End the proceedings quickly.
2. Force the DEMOCRATS to push for the proceedings to end quickly.
What helps here is that the House managers for this case are such a motley assortment of stunted misfits that there are at least a half-dozen Senate Democrats or challengers to incumbent Senate Republicans who know that @ssholes like Nadler and Schiff are seen as repulsive creatures by most Americans outside New York City, California and Washington D.C.
Mitt Romney is the one to watch.
The man who would be king.
I think all of the dwindling has already happened in the real world.
I haven’t heard a single mention of impeachment or trial in about six weeks at work or anywhere else, and there are couple of true believer activist democrats in my office.
Well I doubt I have “completely misread this”. The dismissal would have been provocative sure but it had he wind at it’s sails in that it would have cemented the public perception that this is a partisan corruption of a rare constitutional procedure. The impeachment will now have much more legitimacy. Yes Nadler and Schiff are vile by any standard but Mitch not doing what is necessary to keep the rat assassin witnesses off the stage is really a bad thing that could cause things to spin out of control. I think you are saying Mitch is just giving them a stage and the public will be repulsed by what they see. I think maybe you have misread this.
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Bargain from Strength.
Get Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, the Whistleblower that took trips with them, and the Dems will be on defense, and end thoughts of future Impeachment charges.
It’s simple, but the cowards won’t do it.
They won’t take any power away from Feinstein either.
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So after the Democrats gave me no Due Process in the House, no lawyers, no witnesses, no nothing, they now want to tell the Senate how to run their trial. Actually, they have zero proof of anything, they will never even show up. They want out. I want an immediate trial!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2019
Did he request a dismissal after he demanded a trial?
One of the reasons why many Republicans in D.C. keep a distance from Trump is that he's all over the map on many things. God bless him, but that's no way to garner support in an overtly political environment.
If history is any guide, the first request for dismissal of the charges would be filed -- most likely by Trump's legal team, not a Senator -- AFTER both sides make their opening statements.
POTUS tweeted a request for dismissal about a week ago. After it became clear the GOP Senate had less than zero interest in substantively supporting him at trial.
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Nunes says the IC IG has important testimony hidden by Schiff. I’d include him, too. And certainly no more Democrat witnesses or those covered by executive privilege like Bolton.
There are about 15000 employees where I work. I’ll let you know if I hear anyone mention impeachment this week.
I don't believe that's exactly true (I have not seen any such thing). What he DID do was re-post quotes from others like Laura Ingraham calling for a dismissal.
Who is the "whistleblower?"
Before you say "Eric Ciaramella," I will offer this word of caution: In a legal proceeding, there is a huge danger in making assumptions about facts that are not established in the record of the proceedings at hand. And to the best of my knowledge, this so-called "whistleblower" has not been publicly identified anywhere except in media accounts -- many of them from half-baked conservative news websites that purvey fake news as badly as CNN does.
Before calling the "whistleblower," the defense team must first establish who exactly he is. That means they must first get their hands on all the records related to this person and his dealings with Schiff's staff. Personally, I suspect that either their is NO whistleblower, or there are at least a half-dozen people who provided information to Schiff's staff in a way that they might be considered "whistleblowers" of one kind or another.
The first witness for the defense should be Michael Atkinson, the Inspector General who handled the "whistleblower" complaint.
There's a reason why Schiff has adamantly refused to release the transcript of Atkinson's testimony in Schiff's secret committee proceedings last fall.
Agree. One reason the GOP Senate won’t touch the Ukraine hoax is that most all trails lead back to the House. Elected Democrats, their hired staff, etc. That will open up many serious issues and they simply have no desire fighting those battles to the benefit of Donald J. Trump.
Huh? What do you think the House did last week?
If you refer to Trump's Jan 12 Tweet as a direct request, the readers will see why you are confused. In your defense it is possible you just ran with the MSM's claim Trump called for a dismissal.
That Tweet:
"Many believe that by the Senate giving credence to a trial based on the no evidence, no crime, read the transcripts, “no pressure” Impeachment Hoax, rather than an outright dismissal, it gives the partisan Democrat Witch Hunt credibility that it otherwise does not have. I agree!"
The only thing stated that Trump could agree or disagree with was whether the Witch Hunt's level of credibility was strengthened by the Senate's action. This statement may or may not have been prior to Trump's counsel most likely advising such a motion was not contemplated under the Constitution.
If you have credible evidence of a direct pre-trial request for a motion for dismissal such as you urge, please share it.
Seems pretty clear to me:
POTUS: “When is the GOP going to start fighting back?”
Don Jr.: “Where is Lindsay?”
Response from GOP Senate: Crickets.
Case closed.
Not Lindsey’s fault they don’t have the votes to dismiss. McConnell could have sent this back to the House as null and void if he wanted to.
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