Posted on 01/18/2020 2:59:24 PM PST by jazusamo
To introduce evidence. Trump and company set a trap for the democrats and they walked right into it. Trump isn't in trouble. Biden is and so are a whole lot more. The coup is going down. I'm betting Trump can't wait to testify.
Impeachment is just another political weapon. Always has been. Always will be.
It supposed to be for crimes so serious that elections arent a remedy for them.
Thats not the case with Trumps impeachment.
You have no standing to introduce evidence if you first haven’t established probable cause. They had NOTHING.
Trump and Co. setting a trap is fine if that’s what happened/happening. But I feel like Trump’s lawyers aren’t clear about the unconstitutionality of this whole proceeding from the very start.
Andrew Jackson was Trump 1.0 - killed the National Bank.
Something is uncontitutional only when the SCOTUS says it is...
“there is no record they even tried to bring a petition.”
Which goes back to my statement. It would have been a fools errand and when the SC said no it would have helped the rats.
All right!!!!! This is what we needed to hear/read!!!!
This is a trial. It will be concluded in November.
We are the jury.
Does Scotus even have any authority over this, other than the Chief Justice overseeing the Senate portion?
The Constitution gives the House sole authority to impeach; right, wrong, or indifferent. I'm certainly not happy with how this is all playing out, but let's not try to reinvent the Constitution to suit our needs, as that is what liberals do.
At this stage, it's all up to the Pubbies in the Senate, which should worry all of us.
Yep.
“Unsavory, overreaching and setting a terrible precedent? Yes. But not unconstitutional.”
I must disagree. The Constitution states that impeachment may be bought against the President for “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors”. The founding fathers quite deliberately intended in that phrase to make it a very high bar indeed.
What the democrats have relied upon for the articles of impeachment they have introduced fall painfully short of that magnitude And therefor fail to meet constitutional muster.
Yes, but it is described with specific words and phrases in the US Constitution. Some of those being:
Article II Sec 4. "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
This is easily (and rather obviously) interpreted as saying a President can NOT be removed just because the House and Senate do not like him. SCOTUS could reinforce that with a ruling that would serve as clear precedent. It would be MUCH better for SCOTUS to do this now, rather than AFTER, should the President be "convicted" of a non-crime. Imagine the uproar if a President was impeached and removed from office, only for SCOTUS to pull out the constitution and point out the above, simple clause, and invalidate the whole circus.
At this point, it seems highly unlikely that the President will be convicted in the Senate. However, due to the idiocy of Pelosi, we are at a point where something that "goes without saying" needs to be said, and set in precedent. Even if it doesn't happen until AFTER he is acquitted, this argument should go to SCOTUS. Reinforcing the clear language of Article II sec 4 would not only be a huge slapdown of Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler, but it would ERASE Trump's impeachment, deeming it unconstitutional and illegitimate.
Excellent point and very well said!
The SCOTUS has no authority to throw out an impeachment.
“...If Bush had put in another Thomas instead of Roberts,...”
When he ran for President, he promised that he would appoint strict constructionists. He was blowing smoke up our back sides.
Bush was an absolute disaster, a fake Christian, a northeastern liberal masquerading as a conservative.
Why are so many republicans going along with this sham?
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GWBush: a leftwing RINO traitor
Roberts: a leftwing RINO traitor
Thomas: Constitutional Conservative
The entire Bush family is a treasonous collection of traitors.
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