Posted on 01/15/2020 10:46:22 AM PST by DTAD
Soldiers and Civilians with the U.S. Army Garrison (USAG) Ansbach Provost Marshal Office (PMO) practiced and qualified with the Army’s new weapons system during a range at the Oberdachstetten Training Area Jan. 9-10.
Prior to being issued the M17 and M18 Modular Handgun System (MHS), the PMO used the M9 Beretta, a 1980s-era pistol. During the range, the reaction to handling and firing the new weapon was positive.
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I have an M9 and an M17. The M17 is better. The M9 was no slouch, but the triggers are worlds different. The M17 trigger is far superior to the M9. The M9 was very reliable but the M17 is ridiculously reliable. The M17 allows a 21 round magazine that’s very nice to have.
I think the M17 is a good improvement over the M9.
+100
Certainly better than the overpriced FrankenGlock that Glock submitted.
This coming from a self-described Glock Fanboi.
I should hope so.
The M9 was very reliable
50 rounds on a range, sure. Not in a dirty, dusty environment where the gun can run dry, though.
Is the M17 still 9mm like the M9?
Yep. Both are 9mm.
>> I have an M9 and an M17. The M17 is better.
I have both too and I fully agree with you.
Wow, Sig was able to make a better pistol than Beretta designed in 1972...... they should really pat themselves on the back....
SSgt Blank Blank of the Marine Corp Action Shooting team never told me that they were having trouble with the sights falling off the early test batches of the SIG.
Changing from DA to SA and be able to control shot placement took more training than a pistol should take, especially since a pistol is a secondary weapon designed to help you get to the battle rifle. The Beretta was a poor choice.
The SIG is a departure from the one-size-fits-all to a true modular system that can be modified for the mission. Optic, lights, lasers, suppressors, all can be fitted to the basic frame and slide assembly and not change the operations one iota except in capability.
While I prefer a 1911(and carry one every day), I am envious of the M17/M18 platform and it's versatility.
Glock was upset it was not chosen, but it did not, and does not offer any of the configureability the SIG does.
My cousin serves in Nokor near the DMZ. He mentioned MOST of the MP’s are either black or above 6’2” to stare down the commie guards and when there is a meeting between the 2 near the border, they make sure they look DOWN at them when standing in front..
And now it’s time for some Sig Sauer M17/M18 gun porn: https://www.sigsauer.com/products/firearms/pistols/m17-m18/
things to do and see in Oberdachstetten:
https://www.army.mil/article/152782/oberdachstetten_local_training_area_hidden_in_plain_sight
Had an uncle that was drafted at the end of WWII. He ended up as an MP in West Germany someplace.
They were issued extremely worn 1911s that were in dire need of refurbishing. Those 1911s were a problem during qualification at the range.
When it comes to firearms “newer” does not mean “better”. The most important factor in a combat pistol is its reliability under adverse conditions. The old Berettas were less reliable than the competing entries back in the 70s. But it was chosen for political reasons IICR. It’s about time it got replaced. I just hope the new one is actually better.
>> Wow, Sig was able to make a better pistol than Beretta designed in 1972...... they should really pat themselves on the back....
Every pistol in the competition did. SIG made the best of the guns competing in the 21st century. So, yeah, they should pat themselves on the back.
It was time for total replacement or modernization. The 9mm was the NATO round and uniformity was the word of the day. Berretta won out over Colt SSP, S&W 459, Walther P88, Steyr GB, and the HKP7. If Glock had been around in 1971, it might have made real history then.
The configurability of the Sig320/M17/M18 is not so much the attachments as being able to use the same receiver in different size frames and for different calibers, to satisfy the needs of small handed female MP’s and guerilla handed SF operators alike. It maintains a flexible but consistent set of supply parts to maintain across the force. An advantage for the military.
On the street, there isnt much cost savings between having the parts to swap out on a single P320 or just having multiple guns.
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