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Whoa! GOP does not have 51 votes to dismiss?
American Thinker ^ | 01/14/2020 | Patricia McCarthy

Posted on 01/14/2020 7:21:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

How imbecilic are those Republicans trying to make a name for themselves by supporting the unconstitutional Schiff/Pelosi articles of impeachment? Beyond polite description.

Susan Collins, Rob Portman, probably the self-serving Mitt Romney, are each trying to be the biggest monkey wrenches in an already ridiculous endeavor to remove President Trump from office. Each of them should just admit they are Democrats at heart and switch parties. How else to explain their betrayal of their own party? Poor judgment is one thing, like Matt Gaetz voting for Pelosi's meaningless resolution to limit Trump's ability to counteract Iran. That was just dumb, a hopefully momentary lapse. As for the rest of them, they are idiotic, masters of their own demise. If they fail to realize that Donald Trump is the most successful, most popular president in decades, perhaps ever, they do not have the requisite brains to hold public office.

If they do not realize by now that the impeachment over a boring phone conversation with the president of Ukraine is as big a hoax as the Russia-collusion story rom the outset, they are too dim to have any political power in the Republican Party. Send them over to the Democrats where they belong. While Republicans are often the stupid party, Democrats are the evil party; they support terrorists like Qassem Soleimani, and brutal tyrannies like those in Iran and Venezuela. Trump has trolled them into defending the indefensible.

Who among us knows what Mitch McConnell has up his sleeve? Let us hope he has a plan to demolish the Dems' specious plan to impeach, a plan that was hatched before Donald Trump was even inaugurated.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; US: Maine; US: Massachusetts; US: Michigan; US: Ohio; US: Utah
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
I thought the VP was blocked from breaking ties due to his inherent conflict of interest.

Any tie breaking vote by the VP is valid. This is not a judicial process but political, just like the votes of ALL the other 100 senators is political and could equally be called "conflict of interest".

41 posted on 01/14/2020 8:21:54 AM PST by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Slow down Patty. You are making a lot of conclusions based on enemedia reporting. Let’s all calm down and see what happens when (or if) the Senate actually gets the articles delivered. Then we can get in a focused uproar.


42 posted on 01/14/2020 8:22:21 AM PST by Savage Rider
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To: SunkenCiv
"By the end of the day they vote to convict, all in favor will be floating down the Potomac to the sea."

... in their yachts knowing the conservatives keyboard commandos will dutifully bend over yet again.

43 posted on 01/14/2020 8:23:30 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re in that awkward period between there being factual new to report and known future events that will produce factual news. It’s when those that get paid for writing “news” make stuff up.


44 posted on 01/14/2020 8:23:48 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I completely disagree that these losers should become Democrats. If that happened, we’d have Majority Leader Schumer. I’ll keep these losers, thank you. These narcissists dance to the media’s tune. They know the media hates Republicans and the surest way to get easy publicity is to give the media what they want. In the end, we’re still better off with them than without them. I despise them as much as the next person, but I can do math and we need them.


45 posted on 01/14/2020 8:26:54 AM PST by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Wm F Buckley Republican
Well, Utah would never elect Romney as a Democrat, so he has no choice but to be a Republican. Probably the same thing with Murkowski and Alaska.

-PJ

46 posted on 01/14/2020 8:29:13 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney is leading this charge...


47 posted on 01/14/2020 8:31:22 AM PST by caww
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To: SeekAndFind

Republicans trying to make a name for themselves by supporting the unconstitutional Schiff/Pelosi.

It’s called lets make a deal in the good old boy arena.
You get
1.Insider stock info
2.Freezer money
3.Free hookers
4.Get to go to all the parties we have


48 posted on 01/14/2020 8:34:06 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: crz
He is the president of the Senate. There is no conflict of interest as a result.

I think he meant that the conflict of interest is that if Trump is convicted and removed, Pence becomes president. Pence stands to gain by voting with the Democrats. (Not saying he would. Besides, if the Democrats don't have the votes to prevent a dismissal without a tie-breaker vote from the VP, they certainly don't have them for a conviction.)

Another way to look at this is, what if they had impeached Pence? Would he still get to be the tie-breaking vote in the Senate dismissal vote? That I do not know.

49 posted on 01/14/2020 8:35:04 AM PST by OA5599
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To: SeekAndFind

Do these idiots actually think any of Trump’s tens of millions of supporters will ever vote Republican again if they screw Trump out of his rightful place in history? News flash.... Trump has a 96% approval rating among Republicans. What planet are these a-holes living on?


50 posted on 01/14/2020 8:39:15 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Responsibility2nd

My disagreement with that view lies in the passive nature of such approach.

I believe that if the Dems are made to feel major political pain via exposure in a Senate trial, that they will not have the stomach to bring up impeachment again. Further, it may be enough to return the House to GOP control where such a possibility would not be considered for at least the first two years of the President’s second term.


51 posted on 01/14/2020 8:43:15 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: SeekAndFind

Saw Ted Cruz on Fox this morning (condo gym doesn’t get OAN)...he said a dismissal would leave things hanging and an acquittal would settle it in a much better way...the question will be whether the ugly 3 opt for witnesses and whether Manchin and another of the Dems jumps ship...and for every witness the Dems might call, Trump’s lawyers would also get their choice of witnesses....who blinks?


52 posted on 01/14/2020 8:44:05 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mitch should hold a vote and expose the RINO’s.


53 posted on 01/14/2020 8:46:56 AM PST by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: OA5599

That...would result in a constitutional crisis. More than the one the C-suckers have already caused.


54 posted on 01/14/2020 8:48:41 AM PST by crz
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To: tennmountainman

This. Enough.


55 posted on 01/14/2020 8:49:00 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: trebb

I would love to see “whistleblower” CIA-ramella on the stand under oath.


56 posted on 01/14/2020 8:49:06 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: SeekAndFind

More republicans will turn on Trump, it’s what they do ...


57 posted on 01/14/2020 8:50:48 AM PST by GulfMan
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To: SeekAndFind

After the Dems with patent conflicts of interest (took money from Hunter Biden; running for President as opponent of the accused) are recused under long-standing rules, about 40 votes to dismiss would be a majority.


58 posted on 01/14/2020 8:52:02 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: SeekAndFind

A flat out dismissal is a precedent I don’t think most would want to set.

Everyone knows these articles are a complete sham... even the Dems who passed them.

However, they were passed, and the constitution states that it is the Senate’s duty to hold the trial. A flat out dismissal with 51 votes would be a piss poor precedent to set... there is no clause in the constitution for dismissal outright.

Let them have their waste of time trial, let it drag on into the fall as far as I’m concerned... Slow walk this crap right up to election day, as far as I care.

Trump is going to go down in history as the first “impeached” President to win re-election... and his re-election is going to be huge...

Let them play their games, the electorate see right through it all.


59 posted on 01/14/2020 8:57:40 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: trebb

Here’s how I think they should handle the question of witnesses; Have each side submit their full list of proposed witnesses. List them all. And if the Democrats only want to have four on the list, that’s okay. Trump should have about 20 on the list. He can have the Bidens, the Ukraine president, the entire staff of Adam Schiff and the whistleblower, and on and on. And when the Senators see that there are dozens of witnesses lined up, meaning this fake trial could go on for months, have one vote. Witnesses or no witnesses. Yes or no.


60 posted on 01/14/2020 8:58:37 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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