Skip to comments.Whoa! GOP does not have 51 votes to dismiss?
Posted on 01/14/2020 7:21:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Any tie breaking vote by the VP is valid. This is not a judicial process but political, just like the votes of ALL the other 100 senators is political and could equally be called "conflict of interest".
Slow down Patty. You are making a lot of conclusions based on enemedia reporting. Let’s all calm down and see what happens when (or if) the Senate actually gets the articles delivered. Then we can get in a focused uproar.
... in their yachts knowing the conservatives keyboard commandos will dutifully bend over yet again.
We’re in that awkward period between there being factual new to report and known future events that will produce factual news. It’s when those that get paid for writing “news” make stuff up.
I completely disagree that these losers should become Democrats. If that happened, wed have Majority Leader Schumer. Ill keep these losers, thank you. These narcissists dance to the medias tune. They know the media hates Republicans and the surest way to get easy publicity is to give the media what they want. In the end, were still better off with them than without them. I despise them as much as the next person, but I can do math and we need them.
Romney is leading this charge...
Republicans trying to make a name for themselves by supporting the unconstitutional Schiff/Pelosi.
It’s called lets make a deal in the good old boy arena.
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I think he meant that the conflict of interest is that if Trump is convicted and removed, Pence becomes president. Pence stands to gain by voting with the Democrats. (Not saying he would. Besides, if the Democrats don't have the votes to prevent a dismissal without a tie-breaker vote from the VP, they certainly don't have them for a conviction.)
Another way to look at this is, what if they had impeached Pence? Would he still get to be the tie-breaking vote in the Senate dismissal vote? That I do not know.
Do these idiots actually think any of Trumps tens of millions of supporters will ever vote Republican again if they screw Trump out of his rightful place in history? News flash.... Trump has a 96% approval rating among Republicans. What planet are these a-holes living on?
My disagreement with that view lies in the passive nature of such approach.
I believe that if the Dems are made to feel major political pain via exposure in a Senate trial, that they will not have the stomach to bring up impeachment again. Further, it may be enough to return the House to GOP control where such a possibility would not be considered for at least the first two years of the President’s second term.
Saw Ted Cruz on Fox this morning (condo gym doesn’t get OAN)...he said a dismissal would leave things hanging and an acquittal would settle it in a much better way...the question will be whether the ugly 3 opt for witnesses and whether Manchin and another of the Dems jumps ship...and for every witness the Dems might call, Trump’s lawyers would also get their choice of witnesses....who blinks?
Mitch should hold a vote and expose the RINOs.
That...would result in a constitutional crisis. More than the one the C-suckers have already caused.
I would love to see “whistleblower” CIA-ramella on the stand under oath.
More republicans will turn on Trump, it’s what they do ...
After the Dems with patent conflicts of interest (took money from Hunter Biden; running for President as opponent of the accused) are recused under long-standing rules, about 40 votes to dismiss would be a majority.
A flat out dismissal is a precedent I don’t think most would want to set.
Everyone knows these articles are a complete sham... even the Dems who passed them.
However, they were passed, and the constitution states that it is the Senate’s duty to hold the trial. A flat out dismissal with 51 votes would be a piss poor precedent to set... there is no clause in the constitution for dismissal outright.
Let them have their waste of time trial, let it drag on into the fall as far as I’m concerned... Slow walk this crap right up to election day, as far as I care.
Trump is going to go down in history as the first “impeached” President to win re-election... and his re-election is going to be huge...
Let them play their games, the electorate see right through it all.
Here’s how I think they should handle the question of witnesses; Have each side submit their full list of proposed witnesses. List them all. And if the Democrats only want to have four on the list, that’s okay. Trump should have about 20 on the list. He can have the Bidens, the Ukraine president, the entire staff of Adam Schiff and the whistleblower, and on and on. And when the Senators see that there are dozens of witnesses lined up, meaning this fake trial could go on for months, have one vote. Witnesses or no witnesses. Yes or no.
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