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History Has Basically Forgotten These American Military Defeats
TopTenz ^ | DECEMBER 29, 2019 | LARRY HOLZWARTH

Posted on 12/31/2019 12:28:21 PM PST by artichokegrower

Americans have never accepted defeat easily. Not in sports, not in politics, not in warfare. Defeats in battle have only been sustained, in the American psyche, when the enemy has resorted to treachery, or the soldiers defending a given position were overcome by overwhelming odds, despite heroic and inspiring resistance.

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KEYWORDS: america; bloggers; blogpimp; clickbait; history; warfare
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I had not heard of The Battle of the Wabash. The Custer defeat pales in comparison.
1 posted on 12/31/2019 12:28:21 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Tailhook

It allowed the Democrats to smash the military.


2 posted on 12/31/2019 12:32:35 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: artichokegrower

Just post the list.

Not gonna go to some cluck baitz site


3 posted on 12/31/2019 12:33:37 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: artichokegrower

I didn’t even know Detroit was attacked during the war of 1812.


4 posted on 12/31/2019 12:37:38 PM PST by Husker24
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To: artichokegrower

I wonder what my CSA ancestors would think of that title.


5 posted on 12/31/2019 12:39:38 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: artichokegrower

I disagree with some of the “facts”.

Defeats suffered by small forces against overwhelming odds should not really be counted. For instance Thermopylae.

Custer and the Alamo were simply over whelmed by numbers. We did not get notification before Pearl Harbor. Looking back, there were some things that could have been guessed at but the Japs sailed under extreme secrecy.

We actually responded pretty well considering it was total sneak attack.


6 posted on 12/31/2019 12:39:58 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: artichokegrower

I can’t read the article. The site complains about my Adblocker and keeps insisting that I subscribe. I guess this is another example of clickbait.


7 posted on 12/31/2019 12:40:23 PM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: artichokegrower

8 posted on 12/31/2019 12:41:37 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: central_va

Probably about the same as my Union ancestors.

Cheers!


9 posted on 12/31/2019 12:41:44 PM PST by sauropod (Hold onto that impeachment for a while. It'll get better with age, just like Jennifer Rubin has.)
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To: artichokegrower

1. The Battle of Savo Island during World War II
2. The Battle of Kasserine Pass during World War II
3. The Battle of Tassafaronga during World War II
4. The Battle of Drewry’s Bluff during the Civil War
5. The Battle of Ball’s Bluff during the Civil War
6. The Bladensburg debacle led to the burning of Washington
7. The Surrender of Detroit in 1812
8. The Battle of the Wabash, the worst defeat ever suffered at the hands of Native Americans
9. The Battle of Camden during the Revolutionary War
10. The invasion of Canada during the Revolutionary War


10 posted on 12/31/2019 12:44:03 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: yarddog

FDR knew the attack was at Pearl, why else were all the aircraft carriers gone that day?


11 posted on 12/31/2019 12:45:39 PM PST by stockpirate (Anyone who believes Epstein killed himself is a fool)
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A few people had figured out that it was going to happen but not exactly where.

They ran into all kinds of snafus trying to get the message to the commanders at Pearl Harbor. It did finally arrive but after the attack.

I don’t admire FDR but I don’t think he knew.


12 posted on 12/31/2019 12:51:27 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: artichokegrower

Yeah, well...

We Remember the Alamo!


13 posted on 12/31/2019 12:51:42 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: artichokegrower

Meh. Has nobody ever heard the phrase, “lost the battle but won the war.”? And most successful stock traders lose more times than they win, but when they win, they win big.

Battles are like innings in a baseball game. They are statistically interesting to many of us history buffs, but the final score is what matters. So what if at the end of the first inning of the war in the pacific it was Japan 5, US nothing?


14 posted on 12/31/2019 12:51:49 PM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: ifinnegan

Dittoes.

Lazy posters want us to do all the work?


15 posted on 12/31/2019 12:53:21 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (As a matter of fact, I DID only read the excerpt. OK, I intended to. Next time for sure.)
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To: Pollster1

How could the author neglect to mention Chosin Reservoir and the resulting Yalu River march?

Or the Hadong Massacre? My father was at Hadong precisely 7 days before his 18th birthday. He talked of crossing “the river of blood” upon retreat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadong_Ambush


16 posted on 12/31/2019 12:58:52 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: artichokegrower

“Forgotten” history!? Nobody wants to remember defeat other than Generals, and historians who want to study the defeat to know what happened, and to avoid what happened again in the future, or in the case of Historians document historical facts for future study, and edification. Otherwise nobody wants to remember humiliation.


17 posted on 12/31/2019 1:00:28 PM PST by rockinqsranch ("Democratic" party sold out to the ICP. It is now the Communist Party USA.)
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The Bladensburg debacle led to the burning of Washington

During the War of 1812, most militia had 30 day enlistments and many men signed up. The Battle of Bladensburg saw these farmers flee the approaching British Troops. The American troops were supposed to protect the government buildings in Washington DC, about 10 miles away. They did not.

A few days later, when the British tried to take Baltimore, they found a city whose citizens were protecting their own homes and businesses from being burned by the British. Thus they had built a miles long redout through what is now Patterson Park and about 20 ship owners has sunk their own ships to block the inner harbor from evasion. Some good weather fortune for the Battle of Fort McHenry and the death of the British land forces commanding officer ended the Battle of Baltimore and the war.

Sad for those who died or were maimed, but the whole war ended in a stalemate. Both sides went back to their previous boundaries.

After the War of 1812, however, more Americans thought of themselves as Americans rather than primarily as citizens of their state.

18 posted on 12/31/2019 1:02:35 PM PST by Freee-dame
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Re: #8

What happened to the Texas flag?

Squirrel?

19 posted on 12/31/2019 1:05:15 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Mariner

True. Could have also included Wake Island.


20 posted on 12/31/2019 1:06:29 PM PST by artichokegrower
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