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Ambassador and staff evacuated as Iraq protesters attack US embassy (in Iraq)
The Independent (UK) | December 31 | Borzou Daragahi

Posted on 12/31/2019 2:06:22 AM PST by PghBaldy

US embassy staff and the US ambassador in Baghdad have been evacuated, according to two unnamed Iraqi Foreign Ministry officials cited by Reuters, as hundreds of Iraqi protesters swam the embassy compound.

Iraqi supporters of a powerful Iranian-backed militia were attacking the outside of the fortified zone that surrounds the US embassy compound in Baghdad, protesting against American air strikes that killed 25 fighters from the group, news agencies reported.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baghdad; embassy; installdemocracy; iran; iraq; moabtime; neoconfailures; terrorattack; trumpiran; usembassy; worldpolice
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"The war in Iraq was a big fat mistake" -Donald J. Trump

VIDEO: 2016 GOP S.C. Debate (Trump buries the Bush Dynasty)

101 posted on 12/31/2019 6:23:25 AM PST by montag813
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To: laconic

You’re absolutely right. One good thing about Saddam, the Shah of Iran, and some of the other military dictators in the Mideast is that they recognized women had rights in society, that religious minorities deserved protection, and that Islamist extremism was a threat to them ...


And going back a little further in time Afghanistan was once ruled by a king, Mohammed Zahir Shah, who was trying to modernize his backwards country. Of course he was bitterly opposed by the mullahs. Women in Kabul actually openly dressed in modern style and could do things like attend the university. Like the Shah of Iran, he was eventually overthrown and Afghanistan is now back in the 7th century once more. One isn’t allowed to say it, but the problem is Islam.


102 posted on 12/31/2019 6:24:31 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Baldwin77

“Was he being set up by Pompeo”

He is being set up by those Pompeo actually works for.


103 posted on 12/31/2019 6:27:15 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: laconic
As the mentally-challenged GW Bush said, “the Iraqi people are thirsting for freedom”. Apparently, the freedom to kill us.

THAT DAY when Muqtada Al-Sadr was hiding inside a mosque in Fallujah surrounded by fighters, and Bush would would NOT BOMB THE MOSQUE about it. I said on this forum, this was a colossal mistake that would haunt us foe a long time. Sadly, I was right. Bush had fired the very capable Lt. General Jay Garner and replaced him with pathetic wuss Paul Bremer. Arabs understand ONLY brutal force. That was the day we lost the soul of Iraq.

104 posted on 12/31/2019 6:28:30 AM PST by montag813
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To: nuconvert

Funny. That’s what I was conveying but you judge in favor of the other.

Stupid conversation.

I’ve been on so many threads where I post the fact “X happened”, then I’ll post a few more times on the same thread and some keyboard warrior will plop in and respond to my last post saying that I don’t know what I’m talking about because they learned the fact that “X happened.”

And I’m like gee, did this person bother to read upthread?

Then friends of mine at ballgames, cafes, restaurants see me posting with such short shrift, they ask why grovel with idiots? I tell them there’s a larger group reading and remaining silent and hopefully they will see some quality discussion that energizes the thought process.

So H teaches X, X teaches Y, Y teaches Z and Z who hasn’t read anything from H runs into H and says “X happened”.

Some Freepers who are like Z informing H of something H has already posted previously, posting as if H doesn’t know, they will march off in a huff when H points out their foible. Some have even gone to JimRob saying “I sure showed that H what’s what, yep sure did.” Then JimRob asks H what’s this about? And H shows what happened leaving JimRob apparently scratching his head.

Squirrelly freepers.

But then some Z-like freepers having told H what H already knows and previously posted about, will apologize saying “I’m sorry I didn’t know it came from your post originally” to which H replies “no problem, happens all the time.” Such apologetic Freepers exhibit class and understanding, they become friends.

Happy New Year.


105 posted on 12/31/2019 6:32:20 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Alberta's Child

[Average Freeper in 2003: “The U.S. must invade Iraq and topple Saddam Hussein because he slaughtered Iraqi Shi’ites!”
Average Freeper in 2019: “Slaughter the Iraqi Shi’ites!”
I give up. ]


Iraq invaded two major oil producers in the course of a decade. A stable Iraq able to repeat the preceding ventures is not in the American interest. The current situation, where there’s unrest verging on civil war, isn’t so bad. That will keep them too busy to either build nukes, as Saddam attempted at Osirak, or invade their neighbors. Given the trouble they gave us while we were fighting Saddam’s dead-enders, I’d celebrate a much higher Shiite body count. These ingrates have it coming.


106 posted on 12/31/2019 6:33:15 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: montag813

[THAT DAY when Muqtada Al-Sadr was hiding inside a mosque in Fallujah surrounded by fighters, and Bush would would NOT BOMB THE MOSQUE about it. I said on this forum, this was a colossal mistake that would haunt us foe a long time. Sadly, I was right. Bush had fired the very capable Lt. General Jay Garner and replaced him with pathetic wuss Paul Bremer.]


Prior to the modern era, commanders who got their soldiers killed unnecessarily (e.g. via nutty rules of engagement) risked a gruesome death and the deaths of their family members as insurance against future retribution. Many of our political leaders might choose differently if their necks were on the line, if things go south.


107 posted on 12/31/2019 6:41:06 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: nuconvert
Any cut off in aid from the U.S. will make the Iraqi gov’t even more dependent on Iran. Right now, they are trying to play both sides.

More dependent on Iran? For what? How much aid is Iran providing Iraq? If anything, the Iraqi government is being held hostage by Iranian backed militia.

It was a legitimate decision. Kataib Hezbollah (IRI) has been building up munitions in both.

Not a question of legitimacy. The Iranians are trying to provoke us into taking military action. They shot down our drones as well. We need to be smart and not take knee jerk reactions that are counterproductive. What will the invasion of our Embassy compound presage?

We could have addressed the IRI through more covert means rather than using high profile air attacks inside Iraq. Trump is battling the bureaucracy over removing troops from Afghanistan and Syria. They are undermining his decisions.

108 posted on 12/31/2019 6:41:07 AM PST by kabar
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I’m so happy the Iraqis appreciate what we did freeing them from the rule of Saddam Hussein

war happened because moron gwb wanted running buddies and subjects to draw in his post-presidency.

nothing to do with us or saddam

109 posted on 12/31/2019 6:42:06 AM PST by va22030
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To: RoosterRedux

> “You did when you said ...”

Disagree. Dying and death are not synonymous. One is a process, the other an outcome. Equating the two is stupid.

Leftists causes are dying, their tactics are increasingly ineffective. This is because of the historical Great Awakening. The only thing leftists think they can do to stop the Great Awakening is to use whatever forms of isolation and censorship they can throw at it. They are having a really hard time stopping it. In fact, it’s impossible.


110 posted on 12/31/2019 6:46:08 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Exactly so!


111 posted on 12/31/2019 6:50:02 AM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: kabar

Not to mention the suspicion that the units we attacked are just as hostile to ISIS as we are...supposedly,

Wouldnt be the first time we killed units that were opposing daesh/ ISIS but who happened to be Syrian or Iranian commanded and labeled as our enemies

Is Trump getting truthful intel from anyone?
Putin maybe.


112 posted on 12/31/2019 6:55:10 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Hostage
The Iranian people are actually wonderful people. They are secular but forced to comply under a regime they hate.

Post of the day--you nailed it.

They are victims of horrible rulers, just as we are victims of the Deep State.

Our Deep State and the Iranian rulers should fight it out with duels--leave the civilians out of it.
113 posted on 12/31/2019 6:57:17 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Hostage
Equating the two is stupid.

Yeah, right. Thinking that death is imminent when something is dying is just stupid, isn't it?

114 posted on 12/31/2019 7:02:43 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: greenishness
Trump would've had to abandon the people inside, including the firing of other military officers and generals who tried to help, and then knowingly lied that it was a spontaneous attack over a YouTube video.

Try again, nimrod.

115 posted on 12/31/2019 7:05:29 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Hostage
What is behind this? Who is behind this?

The Brits.

George Sore-Ass. And/or ValJar / Omoeba / John F'ing Kerry whose daughter married a high Iranian official.

116 posted on 12/31/2019 7:07:36 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I’m so happy the Iraqis appreciate what we did freeing them from the rule of Saddam Hussein.

Yep, somehow I don't feel spending billions and billions to buy such short memories was worth it. Imagine if we gave each state billions to fix our roads instead.

117 posted on 12/31/2019 7:07:51 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: kabar

“More dependent on Iran? For what? How much aid is Iran providing Iraq? If anything, the Iraqi government is being held hostage by Iranian backed militia. “

They’re not being held hostage. They are pretty much one in the same.
This will make your head spin. PMF was founded by Nouri al Malaki, former PM of Iraq. It has since come under PM Prime Minister Al-Abadi and now PM Adil Abdul-Mahdi. They all have strong ties to Iran. Basically, PMF/PMC are Qods force/IRGC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Mobilization_Forces

Bush needed to get rid of the regime in Iran, after Saddam.


118 posted on 12/31/2019 7:10:32 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: PghBaldy

Tribalism trumps nation building.


119 posted on 12/31/2019 7:11:43 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Hostage

You asked “who is behind it”.
I answered.


120 posted on 12/31/2019 7:12:50 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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