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Lamar Alexander & Ronnie Jerome Hill [Miami Shootout Bad Guys]
Heavy ^ | 12/06/19 | Jessica McBride

Posted on 12/06/2019 10:35:18 AM PST by Moonman62

Lamar Alexander and Ronnie Jerome Hill were the two robbery suspects who were killed in a dramatic police chase and shootout after a diamond heist at a jewelry store in the Miami, Florida area, according to the FBI.

“The FBI identifies the two deceased individuals responsible for yesterday’s jewelry store robbery, carjacking/kidnapping and shootings as Lamar Alexander, 41, and Ronnie Jerome Hill, 41, both of Miami-Dade County,” a tweet from FBI Miami stated.

Alexander’s family is already speaking out. “He just made bad decisions in life and it cost him his,” Alexander’s brother told WPLG’s Ian Margol.

Many people were gripped by the live news video of the pursuit, and citizen videos captured the chaos and gunfire. However, serious questions remain about the deaths of two innocent people caught in the midst of it all: The UPS driver the FBI says was taken hostage by the suspects, and a bystander in a car. Outraged people on social media – and the brother of the UPS driver – say police gunfire killed the innocent people, although the FBI says that’s not yet clear because the complex series of scenes is under investigation.

Frank Ordonez was named by CBS Miami as the UPS driver who was killed during the wild police chase. He was a young father.

(Excerpt) Read more at heavy.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; diamondheist; florida; frankordonez; jewelrystore; lamaralexander; miami; ronniejeromehill; shootout; ups

1 posted on 12/06/2019 10:35:19 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62

“He just made bad decisions in life and it cost him his,”...

No. I MADE a bad decision this morning by having an extra breakfast sausage when i need to lose weight.

This guy was a MONSTER.

And now he’s a DEAD monster.

And now folks on social media are blaming the police for the civilian deaths.

I didn’t read enough and I don’t know enough to know if it could have been handled better.

I DO KNOW who started this mess!!

Whatever procedure police did or didn’t follow, they didn’t wake up and decide to commit a brutal robbery gone bad


2 posted on 12/06/2019 10:39:11 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622

Yeah the cops should never use innocent civilians as human shields which they did when they kid behind cars stuck in traffic while they shot at the ups truck


3 posted on 12/06/2019 10:42:48 AM PST by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: Moonman62

I’d heard Senator Alexander was retiring, but I would have thought he’d be pretty well set up by now.


4 posted on 12/06/2019 10:42:55 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: BillyCuccio

WOW.

Damn.


5 posted on 12/06/2019 10:44:18 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Moonman62

With his morals, financial acumen, intelligence and propensity to theft, no-one is surprised at this.


6 posted on 12/06/2019 10:52:08 AM PST by dangus
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To: Steely Tom

Does Governor Lee get to pick Lamar’s replacement?


7 posted on 12/06/2019 10:53:54 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: dp0622

I agree.

What I think happened was this was a very long pursuit with five different departments involved. Most likely there was no single person in command to tell them to back off in that situation.

Similar events happened to George Washington and US Grant when they were inexperienced and lost control of their soldiers.


8 posted on 12/06/2019 11:01:01 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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To: Steely Tom

That’s who I thought about as well. 8>)


9 posted on 12/06/2019 11:05:50 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Moonman62
lamar alexander ronnie jerome hill
10 posted on 12/06/2019 11:06:50 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Something must be wrong with my screen colors. I thought the nice kind perps we’re crackers.


11 posted on 12/06/2019 11:10:43 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Welcome to North Mexico, Gringo's it...)
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To: Robert DeLong

Obviously, they were both in medical school. They’re wearing scrubs.


12 posted on 12/06/2019 11:25:41 AM PST by real saxophonist (Never let Sean Connery teach your dog to Sit!)
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To: Moonman62

5 different departments. Wow.

I assume they will do training on this going forward.

If, as one person said, cops were hiding behind passenger cars with people in them, then that is VERY wrong.

If it was procedural, then that needs to be addressed but not as wrong.

I wasn’t there so I wouldn’t vindicate or condemn.

Or judge without knowing more.

I know there’s issues with a number of police but it’s still a crazy job and I remember the stories my friends told me.

They saw a lot


13 posted on 12/06/2019 11:27:32 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Moonman62

I saw Lamar Alexander in the headline and thought this was going to be satire.... who knew there’s more than one


14 posted on 12/06/2019 11:45:48 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Moonman62

Not Lamar Alexander our TN senator ???


15 posted on 12/06/2019 12:25:31 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: real saxophonist

They were turning their life around and about to graduate from community medical college.


16 posted on 12/06/2019 12:41:30 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Moonman62
The FBI special agent in charge of the Miami office did not rule out a police bullet. He said it was too early to know. “It’s very early on in the investigation, and it would be completely inappropriate to discuss that. We have just began to process the crime scene,” Piro said.

We have just began to process the crime scene, cover our ass” Piro said. There, fixed it.

17 posted on 12/06/2019 6:10:02 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Moonman62
Mighty small haul they got.

But I guess all those plaid shirts don't come cheap.

First surprise: He's still alive.

Second surprise: He's still in Congress.

Third surprise: He got really old.

18 posted on 12/06/2019 6:21:58 PM PST by x
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To: dp0622

The cops could not have botched this more. Its a UPS truck. Its not going anywhere. Follow it with a helicopter, wait till it runs out of gas and the bad guys run, but don’t surround it with dozens of cops on a busy highway. They killed the bad guys AND two innocent civilians.


19 posted on 12/07/2019 6:45:00 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

I WAS thinking why high speed chase a UPS TRUCK??

I dunno. The fear that they would murder many more trying to escape by hijacking other cars?

Doesn’t make sense though.

Helicopters and marksmen would make more sense.

But i’m FAR from a tactics expert so I’ll defer to others.


20 posted on 12/07/2019 6:50:46 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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