Posted on 11/22/2019 4:50:57 AM PST by karpov
Authorities arrested a 14-year-old white male student at Naperville High School in Naperville, Illinois, and charged him with committing a hate crime.
What the teen did was genuinely bad: He took a picture of a black classmate and posted a "slave for sale" ad on Craigslist. The school suspended him, and it was right to do so.
But now the police are involved, and the teen faces two felony hate crime charges as well as a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge.
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For the authorities to charge someone with a hate crime, there must be an underling crime. Simply holding or expressing hateful views is not illegal—indeed, it is protected by the First Amendment. Prosecutors can consider hate crime charges only when hate is the motivating factor in the commission of a crime, such as assault or vandalism.
Since disorderly conduct is the only other item here, the hate crime charges presumably stem from that. Disorderly conduct is often a broad category of offense, and such is certainly the case under Illinois law: "A person commits disorderly conduct when he or she knowingly does any act in such unreasonable matter as to alarm or disturb another and to provoke a breach of the peace." The disorderly conduct charge is a misdemeanor, but the hate crime charges are felonies, making this an extremely serious criminal matter for a 14-year-old kid.
I don't know what was going through his head when he posted the Craigslist ad—news article suggest the two boys were former friends—and I do not object at all to the school itself taking punitive action. But should the cops really be arresting 14-year-olds, and subjecting them to life-derailing felony charges, for incidents of nonviolent bullying?
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Detention for a month and an apology essay read at an assembly.
“ What the kid did was in poor taste, but I would not classify it as ‘wrong’. In my opinion, it does not warrant school suspension much less arrest.”
Therefore, someone could take a picture of a daughter, sister, niece or granddaughter and without their consent, post their picture on a site offering sexual services?
Every, that is all, Black rappers commit greater hate crimes all the time every single performance
The Africanization of America is destructive and has actually destroyed Baltimore and Chicago is in process
What the teen did was indelicate and in bad taste, but was it *wrong*? Was it a bad joke?
Who hasn’t done dumb things at 14 years of age?
Felony? Really?
And I do not object at all to the school itself taking punitive action....
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Did this happen at school? So many times I read about schools taking action against children for incidents that did not take place on school property. Public schools have no right to intrude on the private life of any child.
Agreed. This is insanity.
This is the left out of control.
To answer your questions:
1) It is long-settled law that the images are owned by the photographer that took the picture (copyright law). This is why you have to pay the photographer for your photograph.
2) No reasonable person (a standard in tort cases) could conclude that an ad on Craigslist highlighting a ‘slave for sale’ would be valid marketing in the United States of America because slavery has been outlawed for over 150 years.
This is why liberals can no longer be considered ‘reasonable’. They do not notice these basic underpinnings of civil rights.
So...does this mean we will be getting our money back on the sale?
“ Felony? Really?”
What would happen to you if you posted a picture of an underage girl on the internet offering her for sexual services?
Would you be charged with a felony?
Thou shalt not say or do anything associating current Black Americans with slavery or their inequality resulting in the original enslavement.
I Agree he deserves a slap upside the head, write a formal apoligee and his entire family apologize in person to the black family. and then he should have to go spend about a month of Saturdays with the victums family doing some yard work, painting, cleaning the garage, washing cars. etc. and add 200 hours of community service since he admires slavery so much. But we are quick to judge, maybe it was meant as a joke? What 14 y.o. hasn’t done something really stupid? The whole family needs to be shamed too.
Is that because you have a functioning brain, and know "hate" is a motive not a crime?
“No reasonable person (a standard in tort cases) could conclude that an ad on Craigslist highlighting a ‘slave for sale’ would be valid marketing in the United States of America because slavery has been outlawed for over 150 years.”
How long has child prostitution been illegal?
What happens to people that post sexual service ads on Craigslist, especially if the picture in the ad is a child?
Ok, Mr. Broken Record for having repeated the same question three times....
The only recourse the parents of that underage girl has is to sue the photographer for defamation.
The photographer still owns the image.
Yep.
Young people are prone to poorly thought out ideas and actions.
How about we don’t destroy their lives over this type of thing, especially when no one was actually hurt.
Seems like Mankind is basically insane at this point.
Maybe someone should write a book about that. They could title it "Triggered."
You would be sued and charged with a felony.
It’s child exploitation, in both cases.
“should the cops really be arresting 14-year-olds, and subjecting them to life-derailing felony charges, for incidents of nonviolent bullying?”
In a word, “no.”
Now, how about arresting some real perpetrators of hate crimes, like thugs engaged in “knockout” games.
“ How about we don’t destroy their lives over this type of thing, especially when no one was actually hurt.”
There is a victim and he and has family have a strong case that they were hurt.
The white teen and black teen are friends. Likely done as a gag, tasteless as it might be. “Hate crime” laws are idiotic and should be repealed. There are plenty of other criminal statutes with which persons can be charged.
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