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L.A. Times Opinion: Day 1 of the Trump impeachment hearing was a lost day for Democrats
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/13/2019 | Scott Jennings

Posted on 11/13/2019 5:19:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Day 1 of the public House impeachment hearings on President Trump is in the books, and nothing that happened will move public opinion in a meaningful way. The folks who have wanted to impeach Trump since he won the presidency still do, and the folks who don’t still don’t.

In other words, it’s a lost day for Democrats.

The burden of proof is on Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank) to do more than secure impeachment, which is all but certain. Their job is to conduct these hearings in a way that moves public opinion to the point that the Senate will convict the president. That means giving Republican senators something that changes their impression of Trump’s conduct of Ukraine foreign policy. What’s alleged may make many members of the GOP uncomfortable, but it doesn’t come remotely close to requiring that the president be removed from office.

The opening-day witnesses — diplomatic officials Bill Taylor and George Kent — testified professionally and with honor, but they failed to deliver a made-for-TV gotcha. Rather, they simply reiterated that they had no firsthand knowledge of the president’s interactions and had not had conversations with the president directly.

“What I can do here for you today is tell you what I heard from people,” Taylor said at one point to the Democratic counsel, which is not exactly compelling evidence if you are trying to convince the American people that what happened is worthy of taking down a presidency. In Taylor’s defense, he said he did not appear as a witness for either side of this debate, but obviously Democrats were hoping people would view him as a witness helpful to their impeachment ambitions.

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To: SeekAndFind

Why do the media keep calling this an impeachment hearing? It’s still in the inquiry stage.


21 posted on 11/13/2019 6:24:49 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: SeekAndFind
 
 
What I expect is more doubling down, changing the rules, more deck stacking and goalpost moving. They're not gonna let off the gaspedal.
 
 

22 posted on 11/13/2019 6:29:30 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: SeekAndFind
From the article: “What I can do here for you today is tell you what I heard from people,” Taylor said at one point to the Democratic counsel, which is not exactly compelling evidence if you are trying to convince the American people that what happened is worthy of taking down a presidency.

Taylor's testimony reminds me of a song that was popular during my younger years. The song was Take It On The Run by REO Speedwagon.

The lines are:
"Heard it from a friend who
Heard it from a friend who
Heard it from another you been messin' around..."

23 posted on 11/13/2019 6:31:28 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: SeekAndFind
One can only imagine what the DUmpster Kids are saying right now.
24 posted on 11/13/2019 6:42:51 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Want some truth? Here ya go:

THE DEMS ARE NOT GOING TO IMPEACH TRUMP!


25 posted on 11/13/2019 6:45:00 PM PST by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was a nothingburger today the execrable and stupid Chris Wallace notwithstanding.

Democrats couldn’t show Trump committed a crime. What they did show was Deep State bureaucrats disagreed with him about foreign policy.

Even if true, it doesn’t rise to the level of an impeachable offense.


26 posted on 11/13/2019 6:54:16 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone should tell Chris Wallace.


27 posted on 11/13/2019 6:54:40 PM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Artcore

Want some truth? Here ya go:

THE DEMS ARE NOT GOING TO IMPEACH TRUMP!


Trust Sessions. Trust Huber. The midterms are safe.


28 posted on 11/13/2019 6:58:20 PM PST by lodi90
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

The pedophile and the cadaver.


29 posted on 11/13/2019 6:58:31 PM PST by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

an attorney? ;)


30 posted on 11/13/2019 7:17:01 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I didn’t know about those rules. Calvin teaches me so much, like the world used to be in black-and-white.


31 posted on 11/13/2019 7:18:04 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall
Yup.

Hearsay is actually kind of tricky -- even some lawyers mess it up.

32 posted on 11/13/2019 7:25:17 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Artcore

Yeah they are. They have to now. It would look worse for them if they backed down after all this.


33 posted on 11/13/2019 7:36:30 PM PST by david1292
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To: SeekAndFind

The burden of proof has turned into a burden of spoof.

Adam Schiff has nothing but a pack of disgruntled bureaucrats who did not want to implement Trump’s new foreign policy on Ukraine, and President Trump did an end run on them. No impeachment will come of that.The president was just doing his job.


34 posted on 11/13/2019 7:38:36 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: SeekAndFind

35 posted on 11/13/2019 7:39:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought the first day of the Impeachment process was to name the crime? Then you trot out witnesses to corroborate said crime being commtted.


36 posted on 11/13/2019 7:40:24 PM PST by John 3_19-21
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To: Bullish

Chris Wallace needs to be replaced by Tucker or Jesse...


37 posted on 11/13/2019 7:43:01 PM PST by GOPJ (Term limit the bureaucracy... NOT elected officials.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly. There is no justice or attempt to reach any truth. It’s just an exercise of power to get what you want done. Nothing matters except that they can impeach him.


38 posted on 11/13/2019 7:47:46 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: PGR88
I’d say day 1 was a complete embarrassment for Schiff.

Nope. He is incapable of being embarrassed or feeling shame.

Since he and I were in high school together, I keep trying to remember if he was such an intolerable jerk back then. But I do not remember him.

39 posted on 11/13/2019 7:50:32 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Bullish


But according to Chris Wallace it’s practically the end for Trump.

raised in the effete bubble of his communist dad mike, poor chris knows nothing of the real world.


40 posted on 11/13/2019 8:10:46 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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