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The Blue Cesspool Exodus: Conservative Californians Finding Refuge In 'Redder Pastures'
Townhall.com ^ | November 6, 2019 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 11/06/2019 10:28:25 AM PST by Kaslin

I grew up in New Jersey. Morris County to be exact. Don’t get me wrong. I loved living there, but the taxes were immense. And by my senior year of college, my father had enough. They exited to the collar counties around Philadelphia, where the property tax burden was considerably less. Pennsylvania isn’t exactly a red state, especially where my parents live—it’s roughly 50-50 Democratic to Republican—but it’s sure better than the Garden State’s politics. In Pennsylvania, there’s a Republican legislature and if the state party could actually find a sentient being to run for governor, that person could win. The point is blue states are garbage. We’ve all seen the history of mismanagement, corruption, and overspending that plagues state whenever Democrats takeover. In California, scores of red voters are fleeing to states lie Texas, where their politics isn’t viewed as evil, law enforcement is respected, and taxes aren’t so damn high. As we speak, the Golden State is burning and plagued with forced blackouts. The blackouts are the latest method in preventing future wildfires. It’s the Venezuelan protocol. To no one’s surprise, those who are Republicans in this state are three times more likely to say they want to leave this hellhole (via LA Times):

The Volkswagen SUV whizzed past the Texas state line, a U-Haul trailer in tow, as it made its way toward Amarillo.

“Yay!” Judy Stark cried out to her husband, Richard, as they officially left California.

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Just over half of California’s registered voters have considered leaving the state, according to a UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll conducted for the Los Angeles Times. Republicans and conservative voters were nearly three times as likely as their Democratic or liberal counterparts to seriously have considered moving — 40% compared with 14%, the poll found. Conservatives mentioned taxes and California’s political culture as a reason for leaving more frequently than they cited the state’s soaring housing costs.

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“We’re moving to redder pastures,” Stark, 71, said by phone. “We’re getting with people who believe in the same political agenda that we do: America first, Americans first, law and order.”

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A realtor, Bailey launched a Facebook group for others who were struggling with the same problems and looking to make a change. Her “Move to Texas From California!” group now has more than 14,000 members. Most, Bailey said, lean to the right, as she does — though not all.

In California, Bailey said, she felt that she had to hide her political beliefs. To build a more inclusive online community, she has laid down a few ground rules, including “no insulting or going overboard with political conversations.”

“I wouldn’t be one to put up a Trump sign, even here,” Bailey, 40, said. “But in your town Facebook, people would be like, ‘We know who the Trump supporters are.’ I had friends who voted for Trump and went to work the next day and pretended they didn’t.”

Bailey said she’s helped about 40 families move to Texas in the last year.

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State politics weren’t the driving factor behind Lisa Woolery’s move. Her family left California because they felt they weren’t “thriving” in Orange County. In 2018, she and her husband — who died recently — sold their home near Tustin and bought one in Johnson County, Kan., that was almost double the size but about half the price, she said.

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Although she didn’t leave the state because of politics, Woolery said that “it was nice to come to a place where whether you were a Democrat or Republican, you feel respected.” Southern California, she felt, wasn’t an inclusive place where it’s possible to have a “differing opinion.”

“If I said I was a Republican, or I voted for Donald Trump, I would get comments like, ‘Oh, I didn’t think you were a racist,’” she recalled.

Yeah, that’s liberalism in 2019. That’s the Democrats. They’re trash people with horrible values and some of these virulent people are also leaving and taking their politics to red states. The irony is thick. The agenda that they love—high taxes, oodles of regulations, health care for illegals, and other job-killing laws—is partially why they left states like California. I would’ve said come to Virginia ten years ago, but after tonight, look elsewhere. It’s slowly becoming Maryland.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: flee; kalifornia; redstatesvbluestates
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1 posted on 11/06/2019 10:28:25 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Dear LIBs: If you are thinking of moving to this conservative area...stay out. We all think you suck.


2 posted on 11/06/2019 10:32:26 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: Kaslin
To back it up, a small example would be free republic, where over the past few decades hundreds of freepers bailed out of CA to other states...Fact is for the most part, it's not liberals bailing out of CA, but conservatives. The dozen or so we personally know of that bailed out of CA to other states were ALL patriotic conservatives. ☺
3 posted on 11/06/2019 10:32:59 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kaslin

They’re headed for Galt’s Gulch,


4 posted on 11/06/2019 10:34:27 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

We moved to MS from CA last May.

MS is a Free State and yesterday the Voters (including my Wife and I) made sure it is staying that way.

Dealing with the Bugs, the Summer Heat and Humidity is a small price to pay for Freedom. Today the weather is like a typical Southern CA day.


5 posted on 11/06/2019 10:36:10 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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Assuming that it is primarily Republicans and conservatives who are feeling California, how can we account for states like Colorado, Nevada and Arizona starting to get a bluer tinge?

Where are they coming from? Massachusetts? Connecticut? New York? it seems as though most of the people from those states are heading to Florida, Georgia and North Carolina.


6 posted on 11/06/2019 10:37:51 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: dragnet2

That’s a good point. Look at Indiana. Remarkably, that state voted for Obama in 2008. Ten years later, the migration of productive citizens from Illinois to Indiana turned it into one of the “reddest” states in the U.S.


7 posted on 11/06/2019 10:39:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: MplsSteve
Assuming that it is primarily Republicans and conservatives who are feeling California, how can we account for states like Colorado, Nevada and Arizona starting to get a bluer tinge?

Where are they coming from? Massachusetts? Connecticut? New York? it seems as though most of the people from those states are heading to Florida, Georgia and North Carolina.

Read the following article about the 2018 Senate election in Texas. In short, Texas-born citizens voted 51%-48% for Beto, while non-Texan-born transplants voted 57%-42% for Cruz. Those of us (like my wife and I) who left California for Texas saved that state from a certain disaster in that election.

Sadly, I think this may mean some conservatives in Texas are unfortunately raising some snowflakes.

8 posted on 11/06/2019 10:41:01 AM PST by CatOwner
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2018/11/09/native-texans-voted-for-native-texan-beto-o-rourke-transplants-went-for-ted-cruz-exit-poll-shows/
9 posted on 11/06/2019 10:41:38 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: Kaslin
Don’t move to E. Tenn. You’ll hate it here

No diversity, monochromatic
Lots of trees, mountains, hills, lakes and streams. No room for stores.
It’s really easy to buy a gun.
Prices for housing are too low.
Food is cheap.
Most of the people are patriotic. What’s worse, they’re honest.
There’s no income tax, so I don’t think the state will improve much.
Those TVA lakes are just miserable
Dolly Parton music is high art
The Smokies are just crawling with damn Yankees and tourists from Floriduh
Towns like Oak Ridge are just intellectual wastelands
color Orange is everywhere

Save yourself, stay away
I live here, and I’m an asshole

10 posted on 11/06/2019 10:42:53 AM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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To: CatOwner

You’re describing an interesting trend. I’ve been saying for years that the single biggest factor in changing political sentiment in this country isn’t race or other demographics It’s URBANIZATION.


11 posted on 11/06/2019 10:44:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: dragnet2

“Fact is for the most part, it’s not liberals bailing out of CA, but conservatives.”

But are they conservative compared to where they left or are they conservative compared to where they moved to? There can be a big difference. My father had a belief that, generally, in the northeast, the conservatives would be considered liberals in the deep south, and, generally, there were very, very few in the deep south who would even match the political philosophy of a northeast liberal. I’ve seen nothing to disprove that belief.


12 posted on 11/06/2019 10:46:18 AM PST by suthener
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To: Kaslin

Now if only they’d learn WHY California has problems and not help haul us farther Left once they’re here....


13 posted on 11/06/2019 10:51:19 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standupr Philosopher)
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To: Alberta's Child

Every day they are still moving out of Illinois is droves.


14 posted on 11/06/2019 10:56:18 AM PST by Maudeen (http://thereishopeinjesus.com/)
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To: Kaslin

My fear is that the very ones who created that cesspool are the ones fleeing it to start it up again elsewhere, like a firebug running out of a burning building with his box of matches.


15 posted on 11/06/2019 11:04:54 AM PST by Viking2002 (WARNING: Eating too much oatmeal can make you look like Wilford Brimley.)
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To: suthener

To be honest, and the only thing I can base this on, is all those I know who’ve bailed out of CA in the past 20 years, are further to the right than most freepers. Much further. Takes a bit of guts to rip up roots and pick up and move due to political factors etc...So there ya go.


16 posted on 11/06/2019 11:04:56 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Maudeen

Yup!


17 posted on 11/06/2019 11:11:33 AM PST by Chgogal (Never underestimate the stupidity of a DummycRAT voter! Proof: California, New York, Illinois....)
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To: HangnJudge

I’m in California and looking in East Tennessee (and other places). It sounds horrible in East Tennessee. I don’t care for country music so that may be a deal breaker, but as long as I have internet access and can stream 70s/80s rock, I’m good.

Seriously, I’m looking to leave California and want a lake in my backyard. North Carolina has some nice places as well.


18 posted on 11/06/2019 11:14:10 AM PST by scripter
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To: HangnJudge

And don’t come to Arizona....the scorpions are big enough to eat your small children, there are dust storms every day, and the Apaches are back on the warpath!


19 posted on 11/06/2019 11:23:40 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: MplsSteve
Where are they coming from?

"They" are coming from the loins of conservatives, and in some cases from past waves of immigrants and anchor babies who are now old enough to vote. Conservative parents in red states are not taking an active enough role in the development and education of their offspring, and public education is taking over that role.

It really was a brilliant strategy by the left to take over the education and raising of children. While both parents are busy working and keeping up with the Jones's in our consumer obsessed society, teachers are shaping the minds of children throughout their formative years. But hey, check out my new toy hauler and quads!

20 posted on 11/06/2019 11:38:54 AM PST by ETCM
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